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[词典讨论] idioms和Phrasal verbs词典也是少不了的

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发表于 2014-9-12 20:39:33 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
take the heat( z( t" q3 H5 ^+ r+ k
sign off on0 X( f9 [* K, k' x2 Z. r2 X
take pains to
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。。。
, [$ ]& s8 k2 @) a4 F这种最讨厌,每个词都认识,连在一起意思就完全不同
( V0 L3 W2 t. q+ T0 Q多数词典还都不收,或者即使收了,也常常被淹没在主词条的一大堆释义里面,查得率很低
8 r/ ^# K/ a7 y6 d9 i这时候就得靠idioms和Phrasal verbs词典
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相关的资源似乎不多,宇宙盘里只搜到三个
: |# M. A. o9 w/ a6 ~/ j* tMcGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms Phrasal Verbs7 C1 [- p" b6 s5 R; {+ q8 |9 S
Longman Phrasal Verbs Dictionary 2nd Edition- i4 k& `. n: t4 k9 F/ m
Cambridge Phrasal Verbs Dictionary5 a% ?* G6 V5 J# e

! D) D3 X; n% Q1 c传说中的
5 }" c2 v+ G7 S1 T0 q" D6 ?A.P. Cowie Oxford dictionary of phrasal verbs未找到

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发表于 2014-9-12 20:49:18 | 显示全部楼层
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多的是。有空整理整理。
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) o: ?1 M5 n# N9 Q+ J9 D牛津动词短语词典,有,甚至是双解的,不过是第一版的。
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看 superfan https://pdawiki.com/forum/thread-7100-1-1.html 牛津短语动词词典.7z http://u.115.com/file/clq40lt6#

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-12 21:19:18 | 显示全部楼层
Oeasy 发表于 2014-9-12 20:49- B: n8 y! r5 V4 h, L$ w9 |
多的是。有空整理整理。
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牛津动词短语词典,有,甚至是双解的,不过是第一版的。

) s+ V2 }- i  K( M这个是英汉的,想找个英英的
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, T4 z3 |) K% e/ `% S$ lidioms词典主要有! N" i4 J: ?  p  A+ P$ o
NTC's Thematic Dictionary of American Idioms/ y2 D2 \9 D5 [! L* ]2 L
The American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms7 F7 c( ?3 C( N8 V1 w: R% h4 D% J
Cambridge Idioms Dictionary5 W, q7 d- c" a4 Z, \
Oxford Idiom 2004(这个什么都查不出来,没研究具体因为什么)
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主要问题是,无论idioms还是phrasal verbs词典,都没有那种大全集一站式的
) x6 C8 H4 h" u有的收了这个有的收了那个,很零散,义项收的也不全
' H! M3 Y* b# s& R* p9 n/ _$ e' H8 `感觉各家出版社对这块都不太用心
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Oxford 那本的问题在于 headword 都是单词,而词组没有提取出来单列。它的例句给了出处,还是有特点的。  发表于 2016-3-10 10:09
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2014-9-12 21:47:57 | 显示全部楼层
    全局搜索好像比什么都强:(longman5 extra)
    $ O# f8 S3 |  X, w$ M/ \$ xzgrep "sign off on" lextra.txt.xz & y' {, U) K4 D
                    ▪ Question: How difficult was it for you, personally, to sign off on this deal?
    - y. `1 r( K/ G: `- {. B                ▪ How could you not sign off on that?9 K) v( }" i6 ]4 [
                    ▪ Question: How difficult was it for you, personally, to sign off on this deal?/ S4 W8 `$ W. @+ g/ V; R: ^
                    ▪ Dalton, a 1964 academy graduate who spoke on honor at the academy last week, must sign off on the expulsion.
    ! e$ j+ t: o8 R- e6 @                ▪ President Clinton also is expected to sign off on the plan.
    ; i; b/ h$ y6 T; W) ]2 S, C$ xzgrep "take the heat" lextra.txt.xz 3 {. A, o9 ~# L$ h0 Q/ b3 Q/ ~
                    ▪ The election will take the heat off the constitutional issue, at least for the time being., _# f: F" h7 U0 L6 h
                    ▪ Lowell's humour - unexpected - that could take the heat out of a fraught situation.. d" V& ~1 n! s3 e
                    ▪ Hormones take the heat off Thousands of women suffer menopausal symptoms which could be relieved by a course of Hormone Replacement Therapy

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     楼主| 发表于 2014-9-12 21:58:02 | 显示全部楼层
    spoony1971 发表于 2014-9-12 21:47
    , T9 k9 w, e. y% ^全局搜索好像比什么都强:(longman5 extra)
    2 F: |0 o, O) q  Z$ xzgrep "sign off on" lextra.txt.xz / L' O1 h' C6 Q" j; W  b
                    & ...
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    估计全宇宙只有你这样用, B! l' M5 M9 G2 A3 g3 v% ]
    我是懒得敲字

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    发表于 2014-9-13 06:14:53 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 zxjsjd 于 2014-9-13 06:17 编辑
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    ( Y" K: Y1 L" Y1 w9 j& q这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富、体例最严密。.4 Z" \6 m/ Z4 }- G
    http://book.douban.com/subject/1007151/
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    [LV.Master]伴坛终老

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    本帖最后由 wwoxxoyy 于 2014-9-13 07:22 编辑 & e  V9 b! f: C, A- `0 u
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    sign off on something1 G' P/ w1 G7 _8 E
    to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees with the state of something. The publisher signed off on the book and sent it to be printed. I refuse to sign off on this project until it is done correctly.
    6 i* X- w$ l5 h) r2 H: l" R& SSee also: sign
    ! @4 L& {) x. L+ s7 p) mMcGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.1 G5 C/ E  y3 @- i1 L! m& g7 D
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    ake the heat and take some heat4 B, }6 g- i' h5 ~8 _
    Sl. to receive or put up with criticism (for something). The cops have been taking some heat about the Quincy killing. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
    7 U% _. ^* C8 X: ^' Z! j( x% m2 ASee also: heat, take
    , u5 ]: S  O; n4 [% YMcGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
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    take (great) pains to do something also go to (great) pains to do something5 z# I! }" F2 L  C* f. Y7 {# z
    to try very hard to do something We took great pains to insure that no one felt left out.% r( q  A; g8 p1 L' ]3 P
    Related vocabulary: go to great lengths to do something7 q$ x, I% e. v( L/ T# B5 y& I5 L% ?
    See also: pain, take
    . X5 C$ E# Y/ O: o& \/ w, L. vCambridge Dictionary of American Idioms Copyright © Cambridge University Press 2003. Reproduced with permission.
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    take a shot at someone or something 3 Q+ }9 z1 P: d5 w+ Z  i, q: ?) u
    1. to fire a shot at someone or something. The hunter took a shot at the deer. Who took a shot at my mailbox?
    7 g7 i. @$ d) V& n2. Go to a try at something.
    ) [, h, x" b4 eSee also: shot, take
    2 B6 {5 U0 j: L6 [& y7 `; BMcGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
    9 b, I9 _: C8 m5 r; ^take a shot at something also have a shot at something+ [% w, u! o+ M, |
    to make an attempt to do something give something a shot I wasn't sure of the answer, but I thought I'd take a shot at it anyway. He's proven himself to be a talented actor and now he's having a shot at directing.
    ; }  ?; C+ n5 @Related vocabulary: give something a whirl
    2 U3 a2 _6 X/ S8 I: ESee also: shot, take
    + X9 z+ l: d! x; Q( ~% O2 _Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms Copyright © Cambridge University Press 2003. Reproduced with permission.! F, ]4 N9 b, |% ?7 i( a, t

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    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/
    / R- o6 J# `6 G6 |1 z0 S这个网站可能有你想要的,它的特点就是:引用别人的。
    % e$ d2 w. U( M0 U4 d要是能提取出来,可以做一个很全面的词典,应为它就是各类词典的打包。
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    发表于 2014-9-13 08:25:56 | 显示全部楼层
    或者即使收了,也常常被淹没在主词条的一大堆释义里面,查得率很低

    ! D  z/ v5 ?) Q! c8 p( u解析下这些义,独立出来不行吗?分公快点,别重复

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    发表于 2014-9-13 16:48:36 | 显示全部楼层
    wwoxxoyy 发表于 2014-9-13 07:12% v! e6 ^# X! y7 a
    sign off on something
      {2 k+ P, j. |" ]) R( e& C0 |to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees wi ...
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    TFD的确比较全,许多人查询时将其拍在reference.com前。

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    发表于 2014-9-14 23:03:33 | 显示全部楼层
    bt4baidu, 你那麽懂得計算機, 有什麼資源會拿不到啊   f4 p/ b5 H( u9 |. Z  U
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

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    本帖最后由 cnlion 于 2014-9-15 02:02 编辑 $ b/ @4 Z3 c. U# x; q2 B) o
    zxjsjd 发表于 2014-9-13 06:14$ z/ p1 m0 ?, {
    这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富 ...

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    这个有电子版,万能的X宝上就有卖的, 呵呵。 我有实体书, 不过说实在的,用着不太顺手。

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    发表于 2014-9-15 08:08:02 | 显示全部楼层
    cnlion 发表于 2014-9-15 02:01
    7 d! n( w8 N- X/ P  W, n. T这个有电子版,万能的X宝上就有卖的, 呵呵。 我有实体书, 不过说实在的,用着不太顺手。
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    我没找到电子版,没办法在X宝上买的实体书。
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

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    本帖最后由 bolome1 于 2014-9-15 13:13 编辑 9 U8 d3 ~6 c1 \8 O9 m

    # O" b) d6 Z7 z1 T# T5 q我一直以来是这么查短语的:
    , f: B* a0 a3 v在 朗文双解4 查了上面的几个词组,都能查到,不过需分别查heat,sign,pain,shot,再在GD里面ctrl+f,很快就能找到。! l$ h& X' w, N3 n- ?" u
    有时候柯林斯,韦氏高阶学习词典也能补充一下。
    9 k, B5 x7 O5 Q% t# X当然如果有本大而全的专门查短语的词典是极好的^_^4 D7 n" s0 g; }

    " z) k$ o; \/ t1 s/ G$ ?[朗文双解4]
    & g* y0 p* w/ q( E8 K, S6 G[U] strong feelings, especially anger or excitement 强烈的感情;愤怒;激动:
    # I3 ~) b7 W$ B: t6 F1 d" |Reconciliation services can take the heat out of (=reduce the anger in)the dispute. 仲裁服务可以缓解冲突。5 [( @1 T( E" k6 @4 D

    7 O' [* R& ?8 }, I  G8 t9 csign sth ↔off BrE 【英】; sign off on sth AmE 【美】to show that you approve of a plan or that something is finished by signing an official document 签字认可;签字确认…已完成:8 f- o7 o9 S" D* s( H
    Major repainting work now needs to be signed off by a qualified engineer. 现在重要的重新油漆工作需要有资质的工程师签字认可。
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    take/go to (great) pains to do sth also 又作 take pains with/over sth to make a special effort to do something 煞费苦心做某事;十分努力地做某事:& J# S, I% u( \) i5 X: n' O
    He’s taken great pains to improve his image. 他煞费苦心地改善自己的形象。
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    [C] a)an act of firing a gun 开枪:
    4 W' W7 q8 {3 d2 V, QA crazy man took a shot at her (=tried to shoot her)from a rooftop. 一名精神错乱的男子从屋顶朝她开了一枪。
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    , ^+ K) f+ s/ ?7 n1 l, w8 q[韦氏高阶学习]- b( k/ g7 S5 o$ y0 j6 `, _
    criticism or abuse/ j0 g# `1 F, A  U+ H  n7 R
    He will likely take/get a lot of heat for his decision* Z! E& ]. Y3 @; f6 k9 X+ }
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    [牛津双解7]
    8 U! ~# h9 k0 s; r) ` [U] pressure on sb to do or achieve sth 压力;逼迫:
    8 P: ~1 f. d" u: _Can she take the heat of this level of competition?- a2 \2 E% n+ S
    她承受得了比赛到这个阶段的压力吗?
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    5 x. k' r. ~4 I8 A通过一番查询能找出传统词典的不足:take the heat 至少在不同的语境下有两个意思。
    7 G: x) Q9 G. @+ d刚查询 http://www.wordandphrase.info/analyzeText.asp ,take the heat也算是比较常见的表达了,作为短语收词似乎没有啥不妥。

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    发表于 2014-9-26 05:07:02 | 显示全部楼层
    还有这个An Asperger Dictionary of Everyday Expressions,MDICT资料库有的
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

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    本帖最后由 brianleeeee 于 2014-9-26 11:13 编辑
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    zxjsjd 发表于 2014-9-13 06:14
    6 r# m3 W2 R1 [& [. I# M# |6 |这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富 ...
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    PDF文件算电子版吗?

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    发表于 2014-9-26 18:41:27 | 显示全部楼层
    brianleeeee 发表于 2014-9-26 11:112 Z& I- r. {' B: P8 j/ @# T4 {
    PDF文件算电子版吗?

    " h0 O5 s5 g' i2 h! Y9 \当然算
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    [LV.4]偶尔看看III

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    wwoxxoyy 发表于 2014-9-13 07:12
    $ {( y, W- W. l0 h0 `sign off on something
    # w2 a* G3 s) J( Y7 p7 x& ?  j$ Uto sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees wit ...

      l- G0 t2 N3 ~) N$ a! E6 D! \就是这个在线网站 所有遇到的词组都能查到
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