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注意了,我在标题里用的是约等号≈,没说全等=哦- ]! M9 K- W$ F/ i+ ]- M
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说来也怪,翻开英汉词典,secede 一水儿的都是【退出、脱离】,都是一个妈教出来的嘛?% c$ d. \) y4 i, L: a' L6 k
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~ (from sth) (formal) (of a state, country, etc. ) to officially leave an organization of states, countries, etc. and become independent
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巴拿马共和国于 1903 年脱离哥伦比亚。
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if a country or state secedes from another country, it officially stops being part of it and becomes independent
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to separate from a nation or state and become independent* J/ B" o i" @! e ?" r
South Carolina seceded from the Union in 1860.
" c" w/ i9 z6 G; v* w" |南卡罗来纳州于1860年脱离了联邦。
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Singapore seceded from the Federation of Malaysia and became a sovereign state. 新加坡脱离了马来西亚联邦, 成为一个主权国家。 ' |" m0 V0 E1 m+ H" n9 s9 F2 H
明明就是变成了独立的国家嘛!* D* `; ?6 q6 x D
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( z2 b% C% ]8 ^: N$ Q(从宗教、政党、联盟等组织)退出,脱离,分离
3 A9 O8 l7 d3 B3 P! e5 v! |- Q7 E# Fsecede from the EU 从欧盟中退出 5 W' u9 E) [0 D% {
不能说secede 百分之百就是闹独立,比如这个例句,是脱欧来着,脱欧前后英国都是主权独立的国家,不能乱说0 ]% B2 ]1 {5 p/ G2 Z2 o' ?2 w
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To secede is to go your own way, breaking off ties. Usually, this refers to one part of a country that wants to become independent, like the South during the U.S. Civil War. % x9 u; ^ E* t$ ?! E8 F
多本英英词典验证,secede在特定语境里面意思就是闹独立、闹分裂、闹分家。再看:& t2 K5 ~' G0 T- p* R6 c. Q. L( |
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C! \& t; M. C% T柯林斯高阶英汉双解学习词典(汉英+同义词+例句反查)
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2 y+ G4 x q( X: ~' a塞内加尔于 1960年 8 月 20 日独立出去。On 20 August 1960 Senegal seceded. ' w, g3 O! z% ?5 x
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如果这一地区想脱离南方而独立,很可能会爆发内战。There is likely to be civil war if the region tries to secede from the south.
3 B0 `9 Y& s) d4 m& nsecede 能表示【独立】,还有个佐证,派生词secessionist 是【闹独立闹分家的人】
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# X( S1 B0 G- j0 v& N7 h, p立陶宛独立主义者...Lithuanian secessionists...
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赞成独立的一票a vote in favor of secession 7 B2 q, @- V! j3 C+ @2 L
我为啥贴这些反查的结果?因为好些汉英词典跟英汉词典一样,硬是只知道independence是独立,不知道secede ≈ 独立!能不能开开窍呢?!2 F3 o2 b: S- U: M) D; w$ x1 G- q
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8 e/ F% ]: @. W0 t9 m& u为啥【secede ≈ 独立、闹独立、闹分裂、闹分家】这档子事儿这么要紧呢?因为不明白这个,最近的新闻都要看不懂了:4 q2 [1 C; a1 ?8 Z+ ?+ h! m0 I
7 N# ?& U7 o/ @- J1 u英国thetimes(俗译《泰晤士报》)报道:' Y- e3 G, w$ ^$ M" f
) D0 m( k2 t/ O$ BUS election war game sees states ready to secede if Trump is sworn in The upcoming US election may plunge the nation into a crisis in which military force is needed to help break a stalemate and states threaten to secede from the union, experts have predicted.
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Trump's Senior Advisor Says Democratic Leaders Want to Secede from the U.S.
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m5 k" y% H& p$ n# o2 u* {Amid talk of civil war, America is already split – Trump Nation has seceded ( n; G( _/ E$ S, Q7 y* |
咱先不管哪家媒体报的、报的是哪方 —— 实际上双方的媒体都有报道,也互相指责对方闹分家 —— 要是还坚持认为secede就是字面的【退出、脱离】,岂不是隔靴搔痒吗 —— 连【X独势力】【内战火苗】都看不见了。' R( S' a- h$ j1 }1 G
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7 M! W9 j- Y% e8 N! K/ T话说这【X独势力】,很早就有啦:4 Y6 p6 R8 m+ Z# R( Q0 \% k
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Trump on Texit: Texas Won't Secede "Because Texas Loves Me"5 C0 w; t: y: V* X" Y% u& T5 N
Donald Trump on Sunday said Texas will not secede from the United States if he is president because "Texas loves me." BY KHORRI ATKINSON JUNE 25, 2016 ) f3 L: X' P/ H1 E* x |6 U+ j Q5 l
看见Texit没?明摆着仿Brexit造的。Trump说,德州不会跟我堂堂大美国闹别扭闹分家闹离婚分财产的,德州人爱我哟, U) t M) d$ y/ X9 ]3 \% \
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Texas cannot legally secede from the nation, though the notion surfaces from time to time. ) u7 o5 S i9 o& l9 \
新闻里说了,没分道扬镳的主因是法律不允许。
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被英汉词典坑惨的有这位同志,大家瞧瞧:
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现在的人工智能Google翻译真是高级,竟然能从【退出】脑补出【退位】,更可怕的是,还民主党领导人退位,这是怎的,Obama坐了时光机退位吗?" B+ }6 p4 X# |0 }+ Q
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下面那个【希望从美国分离出去】,显然是忠实于英汉词典了,可读者不明白:把什么分离出去?
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R/ Q* u# f7 \! H0 l脱离美国的什么?魔掌吗?话不能只说一半啊!+ s s& e1 W5 g% e, a" y1 O
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有人说,这个意义莫非是secede 的新意思,所以词典上没有?1 y, e/ g, a1 ?/ [8 u
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请看《傳世漢英寶庫》:
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【48 分裂 Division】$ V. M5 J' `1 \! w: U8 V" y/ A
♥ … to pursue an imperialistic policy 施/遵行帝國主義政策 in Outer Mongolia 在外蒙古 or to cause it to secede from China ! K g7 t: `, @( O) l% F
C. Martin Wilbur: Sun Yat-sen: Frustrated Patriot, 1976
2 G3 M4 r5 m) w1 Z* X1976年美国人写的《孙中山 壮志未酬的爱国者》就这么用。
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4 }4 l* t3 k3 r1 z+ S♥The strongly 強烈/硬地 nationalist 國家/民族主義的 southern 南方的 Republic of Georgia 喬治亞共和國 has voted itself the right 已經投票授予自己權利 to secede from the Soviet Union 脫離蘇聯 in open defiance of 公開蔑視 the Kremlin 克里姆林宮(蘇聯中央政府)., [6 R$ {3 P) l3 n0 E
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5 E5 Q* D; }3 B3 w苏联解体各国独立的时候也这么用。% {: P3 G+ N- u' s0 g
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