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[语言求助] 特朗普国情咨文的一篇报道中看不懂的地方

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    2020-2-23 10:00
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    [LV.6]常住居民II

    发表于 2020-2-4 14:15:59 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
    本帖最后由 TinaIsBunny 于 2020-2-4 14:19 编辑 ' ]; |" t# U) z. X1 _! a

    7 F/ V6 O& B1 _今天特朗普要发表国情咨文了(State of the Union)这篇报道中有几个地方不明白5 k) u; I8 l3 m. j2 E: }
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    At 9 o`clock tonight President Trump is scheduled to fulfill a Constitutional requirement found in Article II, Section 3. Quote, "he shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient." The televised address as we know it and the opposing party`s response have become tradition though they`re not required by the Constitution.   b; ^9 T4 N0 }: k# T: I% `" V
    这里引用了美国宪法中的原文,划线部分句子结构怎么理解啊?3 f2 m6 \4 J7 Q# }5 C$ x

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    " H6 h3 ~0 g7 z7 A2 LOne of the coolest part of the presidential address is always the missing cabinet member and figuring it out who it`s going to be. One member of the cabinet always has to be somewhere else in case something terrible happened. So presumably you could have the Secretary of Agriculture sitting somewhere thinking about hog futures and suddenly he`s the president of the United States which would be a huge shock to him.
    $ x: U) M& o3 }! ~$ M9 H! H  O这段话没有理解说的是什么事
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    发表于 2020-2-4 17:45:37 | 显示全部楼层
    后面这段其实就是说的这个事。特朗普国情咨文演讲进行时 美农业部长被藏了起来* G  `6 z0 }+ o9 c; u6 T) r
    https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1591075547817194885

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    正解 点赞  发表于 2020-2-5 01:11
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    [LV.8]以坛为家I

    发表于 2020-2-6 15:04:47 | 显示全部楼层
    cocowind 发表于 2020-2-4 15:40
    - B5 E2 {  p  l* s" xhog futures 生猪期货# ~0 A% R, T- c- u
    https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/agricultural/livestock/lean-hogs.html
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    正解; f* ~7 d. x5 {/ Z" |; Z+ f0 P
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    One of the coolest part of the presidential address is always the missing cabinet member and figuring it out who it`s going to be. One member of the cabinet always has to be somewhere else in case something terrible happened. So presumably you could have the Secretary of Agriculture sitting somewhere thinking about hog futures and suddenly he`s the president of the United States which would be a huge shock to him.
    * [5 g! |. @. i" w' U# v这段话没有理解说的是什么事3 P9 z! q) e: W! \0 S- F3 o

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    # C2 }5 H' O  D5 u- Y4 V+ _/ {这里补充一下——
    7 y- X& S! D+ W1、美国如果总统挂了的话,应该有一个继承的顺序——副总统,众议院议长……其他的内阁成员# r+ j; w' O" d0 z9 E
    2、所以呢,这些人是不会在一起去开会的——免得被一锅端了,整个国家群龙无首4 ]1 F% f9 y9 M, R  N
    3、所以呢,每一次都会有一个内阁成员,在(国情咨文)总统讲话的时候缺席; k8 ^1 E" C6 O( O5 N5 z
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    说实话,看不出来这个有什么难理解的,哈哈哈
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    嗯,副总统还是名义上的参议院议长,50-50票时有权投下决定票  发表于 2020-2-6 16:55
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    [LV.9]以坛为家II

    发表于 2020-2-4 15:06:05 | 显示全部楼层
    recommend such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient to their consideration  .
    ) ]( Q! a; X7 J. c( |4 Y2 ?红色部分为宾语。整句话意为"推荐他认为必要的应急之策供他们参考"。
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    [LV.9]以坛为家II

    发表于 2020-2-4 15:40:45 | 显示全部楼层
    hog futures 生猪期货3 @% ?, j  F9 e& h) W9 G
    https://www.cmegroup.com/trading ... tock/lean-hogs.html
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    这段话说的是由于美国总统这个职位的接位顺序规定,导致国情咨文时某个内阁成员缺席成为关注点 always has to be somewhere else in case something terrible happened

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    正解!对!  发表于 2020-2-20 16:06
    不对  发表于 2020-2-4 19:36
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2020-2-5 10:17:42 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 苗苗长 于 2020-4-10 21:50 编辑 5 g) q; [0 U& K3 ~5 ~3 [4 T

    4 `" M% c/ E/ b* Q! c7 x$ @, C% @' _& ^将such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient后置确实是比较特殊的结构,不过意思也很简单,写下这话的人在突出它的固定性
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2020-2-5 10:35:14 | 显示全部楼层
    such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient后置是因为它太长,不好放到recommend 和to中间,一般都是这么处理的。

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    我说不是因为长是为了照顾被中国英语教育多年的人的感受,实际上我从未发现英语母语的人说过后置是因为太长,可能恰恰相反,是因为强调而太长  发表于 2020-2-7 09:21
    这里还真就是,呵呵  发表于 2020-2-6 14:59
    在正式文体里出现后置一般不是因为太长  发表于 2020-2-5 11:32
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    [LV.8]以坛为家I

    发表于 2020-2-6 14:58:43 | 显示全部楼层
    ericqjy 发表于 2020-2-4 15:061 M3 T3 h" r2 h6 M* n- b
    recommend such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient to their consideration  .
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    # e+ J( ~  d5 ?! x5 N8 v% \1 Rrecommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient
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    # J. x8 |6 h+ y" e1 o, L8 q: ~) wrecommend=谓语动词  
    5 [$ @0 {( j$ ^6 ?' zsuch measures=宾语- I" ]: A1 h4 N4 ]
    as he shall judge necessary and expedient =定语从句
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    以上是正常的句序和句子成分
    1 i0 e  l! E" p' R文中的句序是修辞需要——更平衡一些
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2020-2-7 10:23:12 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 lewpad 于 2020-2-7 10:29 编辑
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    苗苗长 发表于 2020-2-5 10:17
    : _6 w6 l$ A! l" _将such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient后置确实是比较特殊的结构,不过意思也很简单 ...

    5 b+ r' e0 T% c/ J8 y: Y这里为了强调measure 用了定语从句,导致它变长,从阅读的角度来说,后置处理对母语读者来说,也是阅读起来更顺,当然不是为了照顾中国读者。至于是为了强调,还是太长,这个例子中应该是一环扣一环的。可参阅STEVEN PINKER的The Language Instinct: How the Mind Creates Language+ A5 r: X/ W) V( A4 G
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