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[词典讨论] idioms和Phrasal verbs词典也是少不了的

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发表于 2014-9-12 20:39:33 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
take the heat
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take pains to
* t3 F* i9 o, K# dtake a shot at
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这种最讨厌,每个词都认识,连在一起意思就完全不同
# a( g8 _; X4 k% K5 r5 A多数词典还都不收,或者即使收了,也常常被淹没在主词条的一大堆释义里面,查得率很低9 u8 u. l2 _/ D0 _& Z6 S
这时候就得靠idioms和Phrasal verbs词典4 C; y7 `6 m6 p, M
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6 _3 G' I, s) m, l, |/ q$ h相关的资源似乎不多,宇宙盘里只搜到三个
+ ~$ v8 R( f4 @* T3 c7 QMcGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms Phrasal Verbs! U4 a. M$ L! w, Q% ?
Longman Phrasal Verbs Dictionary 2nd Edition
  |9 }) \; D8 h8 HCambridge Phrasal Verbs Dictionary- ^* x# }8 T) i4 k% Y# u: c* L
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传说中的
$ K; M4 o6 K/ h* `' KA.P. Cowie Oxford dictionary of phrasal verbs未找到

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发表于 2014-9-12 20:49:18 | 显示全部楼层

0 e. n/ g, p1 m2 F" s多的是。有空整理整理。
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' c$ \! m+ v$ ]1 X; G牛津动词短语词典,有,甚至是双解的,不过是第一版的。, O7 x, I9 Y6 q# d" B

& v% ]! C2 p' w5 f+ ~看 superfan https://pdawiki.com/forum/thread-7100-1-1.html 牛津短语动词词典.7z http://u.115.com/file/clq40lt6#

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-12 21:19:18 | 显示全部楼层
Oeasy 发表于 2014-9-12 20:49
! _) G' g' `2 C8 X8 L! B多的是。有空整理整理。! i! _$ K% H3 U( W" n

0 i0 y. H% m& ^( d' ]7 d2 z. G牛津动词短语词典,有,甚至是双解的,不过是第一版的。

3 i. `, ^# B% J; G9 J: i  G1 O3 i这个是英汉的,想找个英英的/ P9 L# W; [6 V" O7 ]; }

7 c8 \6 C! n# X* Y$ Yidioms词典主要有5 T3 L% D6 C  E% D
NTC's Thematic Dictionary of American Idioms
" r" }, K- J: Q# h  s# g7 w$ h% t' wThe American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms
5 Q( p( ~4 J- d5 qCambridge Idioms Dictionary4 S0 |8 ^" k3 @1 [1 \- W9 a
Oxford Idiom 2004(这个什么都查不出来,没研究具体因为什么)
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主要问题是,无论idioms还是phrasal verbs词典,都没有那种大全集一站式的
! I" L2 D2 U1 W/ W) D有的收了这个有的收了那个,很零散,义项收的也不全
, k. H7 Z7 N# E7 ^4 ]! Y+ D感觉各家出版社对这块都不太用心
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Oxford 那本的问题在于 headword 都是单词,而词组没有提取出来单列。它的例句给了出处,还是有特点的。  发表于 2016-3-10 10:09
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2014-9-12 21:47:57 | 显示全部楼层
    全局搜索好像比什么都强:(longman5 extra)* H5 t  j& Z9 d0 G0 N  k; B! ^; S
    $ xzgrep "sign off on" lextra.txt.xz
    % i" U, z8 a: [$ @* g% v                ▪ Question: How difficult was it for you, personally, to sign off on this deal?
    + `+ i9 n" o. O. ^) h) j                ▪ How could you not sign off on that?9 \' f: Z, ~! x, D% S4 j
                    ▪ Question: How difficult was it for you, personally, to sign off on this deal?! K. F& [3 s1 F9 m9 q& V) D
                    ▪ Dalton, a 1964 academy graduate who spoke on honor at the academy last week, must sign off on the expulsion.
      e8 K" X3 w, V) X                ▪ President Clinton also is expected to sign off on the plan.3 ^$ g" N# F( W9 a7 b
    $ xzgrep "take the heat" lextra.txt.xz ( q0 i! x/ X! U5 H
                    ▪ The election will take the heat off the constitutional issue, at least for the time being.2 ]2 n) `4 i! ~+ `3 q* m" W
                    ▪ Lowell's humour - unexpected - that could take the heat out of a fraught situation.7 q  _& f# Q/ E. I0 G% A
                    ▪ Hormones take the heat off Thousands of women suffer menopausal symptoms which could be relieved by a course of Hormone Replacement Therapy

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     楼主| 发表于 2014-9-12 21:58:02 | 显示全部楼层
    spoony1971 发表于 2014-9-12 21:47* |- ?4 V5 |7 i" s2 W
    全局搜索好像比什么都强:(longman5 extra)
    1 x& `( z7 W) f8 G0 s# e$ xzgrep "sign off on" lextra.txt.xz
    1 e4 H8 E. [0 J                & ...
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    9 K/ p, _$ o1 |. R: U估计全宇宙只有你这样用9 T( j* `( q+ |2 v, y) j6 U8 x
    我是懒得敲字

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    发表于 2014-9-13 06:14:53 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 zxjsjd 于 2014-9-13 06:17 编辑
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    这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富、体例最严密。.
    4 V( ^1 ?& u% I. D2 R( ghttp://book.douban.com/subject/1007151/
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    [LV.Master]伴坛终老

    发表于 2014-9-13 07:12:18 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 wwoxxoyy 于 2014-9-13 07:22 编辑
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    5 y. \- R* ^3 s- ], a# C1 msign off on something
    - g, V9 m: l( X# e# [to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees with the state of something. The publisher signed off on the book and sent it to be printed. I refuse to sign off on this project until it is done correctly.
    3 Y( [: ?8 ~: i6 X6 e6 ?. aSee also: sign) v  Z1 O3 `+ X
    McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
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    ake the heat and take some heat
    * f8 ]! C9 y3 R9 T5 [Sl. to receive or put up with criticism (for something). The cops have been taking some heat about the Quincy killing. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.! B+ W5 r4 @% z0 s" P
    See also: heat, take  n  ^" D  R" P* T
    McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
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    take (great) pains to do something also go to (great) pains to do something! Q5 C$ [& D, i2 q8 [
    to try very hard to do something We took great pains to insure that no one felt left out.
    0 r2 w& V3 N( H* i) M6 X- e* `Related vocabulary: go to great lengths to do something# z6 Y! i  o7 [! `
    See also: pain, take
    2 P; [! @  v" HCambridge Dictionary of American Idioms Copyright © Cambridge University Press 2003. Reproduced with permission.
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    take a shot at someone or something
      A2 A- `- k. Z8 h8 j* V, C/ q1. to fire a shot at someone or something. The hunter took a shot at the deer. Who took a shot at my mailbox?% W. u9 x8 w9 O2 c: L
    2. Go to a try at something.
    ' r9 W, \0 |9 ~1 c$ SSee also: shot, take
    - H" N, I' o9 t3 eMcGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
    6 L* n3 F! W1 P- Ftake a shot at something also have a shot at something- v2 w  U* S, M2 }9 D
    to make an attempt to do something give something a shot I wasn't sure of the answer, but I thought I'd take a shot at it anyway. He's proven himself to be a talented actor and now he's having a shot at directing.$ g/ ?% d& r' c( R) b9 W
    Related vocabulary: give something a whirl
    3 K1 T: Q% s3 H4 OSee also: shot, take
    * K% ~" ?) |! X( k9 |% H* [Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms Copyright © Cambridge University Press 2003. Reproduced with permission.
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    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/  D& K$ P$ v+ p$ F; D% M1 g
    这个网站可能有你想要的,它的特点就是:引用别人的。
    " S/ b, O3 i+ B# w要是能提取出来,可以做一个很全面的词典,应为它就是各类词典的打包。4 W, [+ e! M6 H* Z. C

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    发表于 2014-9-13 08:25:56 | 显示全部楼层
    或者即使收了,也常常被淹没在主词条的一大堆释义里面,查得率很低

    5 |4 K6 o( u9 ^% Z- x) N: j/ h解析下这些义,独立出来不行吗?分公快点,别重复

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    发表于 2014-9-13 16:48:36 | 显示全部楼层
    wwoxxoyy 发表于 2014-9-13 07:12
    $ i! T+ |' |+ V1 u' Gsign off on something, Y4 K, M( e- u; N. G4 _
    to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees wi ...
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    TFD的确比较全,许多人查询时将其拍在reference.com前。

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    发表于 2014-9-14 23:03:33 | 显示全部楼层
    bt4baidu, 你那麽懂得計算機, 有什麼資源會拿不到啊 . _. H3 d/ k6 Y, V6 e0 @' ?
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

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    本帖最后由 cnlion 于 2014-9-15 02:02 编辑 4 m$ i# }" V* l8 E, A5 y; h
    zxjsjd 发表于 2014-9-13 06:14* x2 g8 g1 g$ H+ Q. q. R3 v+ P& T
    这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富 ...

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    % ^# v  g3 d9 x7 }! G这个有电子版,万能的X宝上就有卖的, 呵呵。 我有实体书, 不过说实在的,用着不太顺手。

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    发表于 2014-9-15 08:08:02 | 显示全部楼层
    cnlion 发表于 2014-9-15 02:014 a# j6 E* }6 a2 H, }
    这个有电子版,万能的X宝上就有卖的, 呵呵。 我有实体书, 不过说实在的,用着不太顺手。

    ! j7 |2 q* B! @我没找到电子版,没办法在X宝上买的实体书。
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

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    本帖最后由 bolome1 于 2014-9-15 13:13 编辑
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    % [9 H' k$ D9 O+ X4 J6 I我一直以来是这么查短语的:, n$ Y3 {" b! y7 i8 k" a
    在 朗文双解4 查了上面的几个词组,都能查到,不过需分别查heat,sign,pain,shot,再在GD里面ctrl+f,很快就能找到。- U) |4 \  \3 j3 B4 r4 u. ^
    有时候柯林斯,韦氏高阶学习词典也能补充一下。
    # W! q  `# v8 [& P  y当然如果有本大而全的专门查短语的词典是极好的^_^. Z% O' i/ ^% r

    9 t( [' {: D. `/ a9 Q* C[朗文双解4]
    9 Z# w3 J/ [8 ?2 ^0 E. J% f[U] strong feelings, especially anger or excitement 强烈的感情;愤怒;激动:5 j. l% ~- Q5 d1 U) M
    Reconciliation services can take the heat out of (=reduce the anger in)the dispute. 仲裁服务可以缓解冲突。
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    sign sth ↔off BrE 【英】; sign off on sth AmE 【美】to show that you approve of a plan or that something is finished by signing an official document 签字认可;签字确认…已完成:9 H9 f, c+ x( i+ q; ~1 J% m
    Major repainting work now needs to be signed off by a qualified engineer. 现在重要的重新油漆工作需要有资质的工程师签字认可。
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    3 M- I- ?* X  f! T; ltake/go to (great) pains to do sth also 又作 take pains with/over sth to make a special effort to do something 煞费苦心做某事;十分努力地做某事:
    : M6 G5 H% T& UHe’s taken great pains to improve his image. 他煞费苦心地改善自己的形象。- v; s* v+ I: w- `; e6 p, z+ c& s

    1 b2 I/ a9 O/ u; }[C] a)an act of firing a gun 开枪:
    # W, N0 c% n+ O4 {A crazy man took a shot at her (=tried to shoot her)from a rooftop. 一名精神错乱的男子从屋顶朝她开了一枪。
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    [韦氏高阶学习]
    , |5 h! t) L. F* X% L" ycriticism or abuse- x' u! j4 Q$ ]5 i
    He will likely take/get a lot of heat for his decision
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    [牛津双解7]
    7 o# L# }- Z$ w. P! z( V [U] pressure on sb to do or achieve sth 压力;逼迫:8 q! d+ c5 f$ b1 g7 j
    Can she take the heat of this level of competition?8 N- x) V. k& P; O
    她承受得了比赛到这个阶段的压力吗?
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    通过一番查询能找出传统词典的不足:take the heat 至少在不同的语境下有两个意思。$ j* i) y, k: x$ M/ n# w* k
    刚查询 http://www.wordandphrase.info/analyzeText.asp ,take the heat也算是比较常见的表达了,作为短语收词似乎没有啥不妥。

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    发表于 2014-9-26 05:07:02 | 显示全部楼层
    还有这个An Asperger Dictionary of Everyday Expressions,MDICT资料库有的
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

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    本帖最后由 brianleeeee 于 2014-9-26 11:13 编辑 1 D9 @# J& ]; w! F/ t) \0 v: Q
    zxjsjd 发表于 2014-9-13 06:141 A" Q4 @) \0 K: ?: y) f5 i( i# I
    这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富 ...
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    PDF文件算电子版吗?

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    发表于 2014-9-26 18:41:27 | 显示全部楼层
    brianleeeee 发表于 2014-9-26 11:11
    $ V: m* g: b& h( ^  s4 @PDF文件算电子版吗?
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    当然算
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    [LV.4]偶尔看看III

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    wwoxxoyy 发表于 2014-9-13 07:12( B$ R, s* V) a
    sign off on something3 r1 u) H' B; M! q: A1 v
    to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees wit ...
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    就是这个在线网站 所有遇到的词组都能查到
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