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[词典考据] common criminal 一定是「臭名昭著的罪犯」吗?

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发表于 2019-12-8 15:37:26 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
问题的起源,是诸多ESL 词典在common下面举例:, i2 E' D8 O$ R' a6 i1 s
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朗文:
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ORDINARY 普通的 [only before noun, no comparative] ordinary and not special in any way 普通的,平凡的
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He insists that he is a revolutionary, not a common criminal.5 n: |/ R+ {3 H/ `# e, Z0 A2 G' ?
他坚持说自己是个革命者,而不是普通的罪犯。
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[only before noun] ordinary; not unusual or special 普通的;平常的;寻常的;平凡的
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/ k! n( M8 P/ z0 uIn most people's eyes she was nothing more than a common criminal.. n: \9 B; s/ a$ z. u$ y
在多数人的眼里她只不过是个普通的罪犯。

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2 \3 k( Z) h3 u. k! t/ G还有:英語常用詞疑難用法手冊:
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4) 一般的、不特别的。
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# M& e0 X4 H- x9 G* }: zthe common man 普通人
! \3 v8 R8 }  Lthe common people 老百姓
+ ?3 [* s% X; o4 S, GHe was treated like a common criminal. 他受到像普通刑事犯那样的对待。
0 C. ?$ X; i3 S9 d/ OIt's common decency. 这是起码的教养问题。
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然而邪门的是:
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" w6 a4 p0 B" U. h" V英汉大词典:
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8. 众所周知的;臭名昭著的
1 _. O, B# C+ V1 Q& C. _% Ma common criminal 臭名昭著的罪犯
Webster's New World College Dictionary:
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4. widely but unfavorably known [a common criminal]

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网上有人发文章《谭译|common加上criminal可不普通啦! 》(http://www.sohu.com/a/151435067_256852),认为common + criminal 的搭配「应是“众所周知或臭名昭著的罪犯”,而非“普通罪犯”」。/ }6 ~4 G% Z+ a" \

- y* L& i9 h9 q/ U5 A% S7 A, n: g先说common criminal为什么可以是「众所周知或臭名昭著的罪犯」,因为common的主要意思有两层,按照SOED的分法:
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1. Of a public or non-private nature. ——共同、共有、公共
6 U" |1 q$ ?: t$ x2 W/ D2. Of ordinary occurrence or quality. —— 平常、不稀奇、平凡,甚至低劣
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SOED在Of a public or non-private nature. 这个分类下面有个小义项:
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5.Generally known; spec. (of an offender or offence) public, notorious, habitual. ME.  Q5 a) e9 `  @  ~% {
J. Wesley Baptized liars and common swearers.
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广为人知、大家都知道。元照英美法詞典:; E, [- z8 m6 o! O8 i* K

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公害 7 [' s: f9 n* @6 D: b
指侵犯不特定多数人的健康权、财产权、名誉权等合法权益的危害,表现为进行了法律所不允许的行为,或者未能尽到法律要求其应尽的义务等。
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' p4 }' u1 y- }2 ^# K/ qWorld Book Dictionary:
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generally or publicly known; notorious:4 K, `& g3 F' P# F+ x
a common pickpocket, a common liar.
这就是众所周知或臭名昭著的小偷骗子嘛
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9. 聲名狼藉的。a common thief 一個聲名狼藉的小偷
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3.众所周知的,臭名昭著的,声名狼藉的
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2 z% o% }# K$ V/ `2 K1 ^问题来了,common能表达「众所周知或臭名昭著」,是不是意味着common + criminal 的搭配 只能表达「众所周知或臭名昭著」,绝不能表达另一层意思「Of ordinary occurrence or quality.」呢?) ?' x* V7 M  v1 V8 u3 Y: Y* x

/ i" b* S* C9 Z. D当然不是!- ~0 q6 x( R  h/ M9 b# X2 c7 \! l

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a : without special rank or status平凡的;无特殊地位的
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You're nothing but a common [=ordinary] thief!2 ~* H4 g* H7 r4 X! E$ Q
你什么都不是,就是个不起眼的小偷!

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7 T  l9 W* h, {9 M编者已经贴心地说了「=ordinary」,那就应该照着「Of ordinary occurrence or quality.」理解啦
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再看下面这些google books 里面搜来的例句:
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2 Q' v/ f; d5 J( A: }On his release, MacDermott was again anxious to deny that he had been given any special consideration. He was treated like a common criminal, he insisted, just like all the other DORA prisoners$ o, h$ [; R; K) u
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很明显common是跟special 对立的
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They treated me like a common criminal 'The way people are offended by it. Like, a guy wrh a list of convictions as long as yer arm, who can't believe that he was treated like a 'common criminal!' That somewhere there must be this one common criminal, and everyone else is a special class of criminal!
很明显common是跟special 对立的8 ~3 h0 Y/ Y- \( L1 ]
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结论应该是:
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common 自带「Of a public or non-private nature. 」「Of ordinary occurrence or quality.」两大意义,跟criminal 这类词搭配的时候,既可以表达第一类意思(公共+罪犯 =公众都认识的罪犯),也可以表达第二类意思(普通+罪犯=普通罪犯)。第二类意思是字面意思,一看就知道,所以英英词典着重解释第一类意思,但绝不是说没有第二类意思呀!
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+ s" v# f/ A1 H7 a& JESL 词典举例,只举了第二类意思,也不是说第一类错误,只是没提而已,万万不可搞出非此即彼的事情来!6 q; q3 G  k  U2 N

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21世紀大英漢詞典
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1.普通犯罪者
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21世纪英汉大说「惯犯」,大概是从SOED「Generally known; spec. (of an offender or offence) public, notorious, habitual. 」这里看来的,不过还是说「人所共知的罪犯」比较好。
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    发表于 2019-12-9 10:15:56 | 显示全部楼层
    所以楼主的意思,该怎样翻译,就看具体的文章情景。 & X  ^/ P' Z* X. `5 u8 }/ g) I
    common 解释成臭名昭著,我觉得也就是往下引申了一层的结果,就是为普通大众所知的,也就是臭名昭著吧,

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    发表于 2019-12-20 10:05:27 | 显示全部楼层
    I suppose a "common criminal" in current English means an "ordianary criminal" in most cases. The other meaning a "notorious criminal", if not never used, is probably rather old-fashioned. 1 `( }9 H* o* d( E; J' j5 k. A: `
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    To make it certain, I have consulted English speakers at italki.com and wordreference.com.7 E' P! A) ~/ I8 @
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    There have been no answers that mentioned the sense of "notorious", which reminds us that a "notorious criminal" was not even an option of the meanings of the phrase in their mind.7 I6 o( g4 b) j3 s
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    发表于 2019-12-20 10:06:39 | 显示全部楼层
    Is a "common criminal" an "ordinary criminal" or a "notorious criminal"? Are the two meanings equally often used in contemporary English?& s, X6 Y. e' {1 A. s0 I+ v# U
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    I have several use examples as follows, is it possible to decide at the first sight/hearing which meaning is carried in each sentence without more context(and I actually do not have)?$ P) [2 ]; e# C! a* d' {7 X

    ' D  s/ I: ~" B+ ?1. He also berate Carter for inviting Soviet dissident Vladmir Bukovsky, whom he called " a common criminal", to the White House?  ]7 {+ p3 j2 O) c8 X+ q) I
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    2. Because of one minor offence he was branded a common criminal.. p. z4 Q0 p$ a
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    3. The government insisted he was a common criminal.
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    4. A Canadian judge upheld the deportation on Thursday of one of China's most wated figitives, calling him a "common criminal".
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    5. As for pictures of Mr. Strauss-Kahn in handcuffs, the French may see a famous politician treated like a common criminal.
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    ( K9 ^& n& P) _% K# ]  F) m6. He refused to wear the blue uniform of a common criminal, going naked or in underpants.
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    7. In most people's eyes she was nothing more than a common criminal.
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    发表于 2019-12-20 10:39:29 | 显示全部楼层
    The previous post was what I have presented in the forementioned forums. I have collected the examples from Bing Dictionary. 0 X$ K; m3 e6 ^9 J$ U$ e
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    Among them the sentence 2 seemingly has a meaning of "notorious criminal" with "common criminal", but I strongly suspect its source: It's may probaly have been created without a specific context by a non-native English speaker just to show the sense of presumable "notorious".$ J! z' d& f4 g/ c! Z

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