dog food@21世纪大英汉

klwo2

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dog food 一般就是狗粮，可是21世纪大英汉词典说：

dog food
! |# A$ u9 |! F/ s- ]美军俚语(美国海军于第二次世界大战期间吃的)腌牛肉末土豆泥

没找到具体来源。
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Green’s Dictionary of Slang
dog food n.1
1. [1940s–60s] (US) any form of canned meat.
2. [1970s] any food considered disgusting.
dog food n.2
[1960s] (US black) a bribe paid to a corrupt police officer.
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[1970s+] (US gay) a soldier, viewed as a potential sexual partner.
dog food n.4
% y( B  ]9 W9 x6 T2 ?[1980s+] (drugs) heroin.

: O; h- I6 s- J4 g; W9 BGreen’s Dictionary of Slang 收了几个俚语意思，包括「毒品」义，不过没有21世纪大英汉的这个腌牛肉末土豆泥……
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Stevie Wonder 于1976年发行的歌曲，Village Ghetto Land， 歌词里面用了dog food：

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Families buying dog food now
Starvation roams the streets
. ^( [! ]: \6 I/ J& PBabies die before they're born
$ s$ ^" _5 p2 Y, ^% h* U/ FInfected by the grief

/ G# R: Z8 b. g: V网易云音乐提供的中文翻译里，说「家庭依靠毒品来维生」……不妥
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1）从上下文看，根本不需要用俚语意义，「狗粮」是说得通的
, P* A& p# P: U* s  r3 f7 n2）Green’s Dictionary of Slang 里面，毒品这个意义是1980年以后出现的，而歌曲本身于1976年发行，不合
1 E" S5 h- L) e: g3）如果要用俚语意义，「any food considered disgusting.」更妥，可以翻成「狗（才）吃的东西」
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loveaffairs

Dog Food: Corned beef hash.
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kyletruman

wiki百科翻译成 犬粮，或称狗粮，dog food @ 中文wiki百科(dog food在英文wiki百科切换成中文界面)，dog food @ Wikipedia
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Gyngreenlie

原来如此。学习了。有一个大神级的前辈，真是太好了。

klwo2

loveaffairs 发表于 2021-5-5 15:08
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Source: https://www.wwiidogtags.com/ww2-slang/

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, V9 \! x; ~8 u# B把Corned beef hash叫Dog Food，应该就是因为两者看着像闻着也像：
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Even though that canned hash looks and smells like dog food it is not healthy for them...

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kyletruman

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klwo2 发表于 2021-5-5 17:27
多谢，21世纪大英汉倒还真参考了些偏门书
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把Corned beef hash叫Dog Food，应该就是因为两者看着像闻着也 ...

  J9 a/ Y* U+ \21世纪大英汉部分释义来源是Collins English Dictionary(之前看过Oeasy版主的帖子，那个帖子的具体位置我记不清了)，另外，dog food只找到了涉及beef方面的语料库：

The dog food industry was spending an incredible $50 million a year on advertising. Commercials centered around the "beef wars," with competing companies all claiming to have the most pure beef. (Bonanza star Lorne Greene did a TV commercial for Alpo …holding a sirloin steak.)

https://www.neatorama.com/pet/2013/05/20/Kibble-Me-This-The-History-of-Dog-Food/，

Have you ever wondered, when looking at the ingredients of your dog’s favorite kibble, what “meat meal” is? Or how much cow is actually in a “beefy” can of dog food?

https://nycdoggies.com/wellness/dog-food-the-story-of-kibble/，

in which the actor Lorne Greene dishes up a can of beef chunks for his golden retriever.

https://newrepublic.com/article/115349/dogfooding-tech-slang-working-out-glitches，21世纪大英汉编纂者可能是从语料库中总结出来的释义。
(Google英文搜索的，其他人可以用Google搜索帮忙找一下，输入不同的关键字，搜索结果不同)

woaini123

Dr. eye dictionary online 查这个dog food居然有四个释义。。  不知道他的汉译哪里来的，第一个解释还是个新义：“内部试用；内部试用的软件”。

woaini123

loveaffairs 发表于 2021-5-5 15:08
Dog Food: Corned beef hash.

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奇怪，这个网站我这边怎么打不开？

dliaas

Urban Dictionary 里面的“狗粮骗局”

dogfood scam
1. A old school scam used by bums to get money by using a can of dog food and a can of cornbeef and hash. The can of dog food is emptied and cleaned out and the cornbeef is placed in the dogfood can. The bum then sits outside a grocery store eating from the dogfood can and is given money by strangers that think the poor bum is eating dogfood.
2. Any scam where a bum lowers himself to a unethical level, such as pretending to have no legs.

MYsedulous

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我一直说啊，资料不全会发生很多问题，知道2楼的资料出处在哪儿吗？
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Green的书太大其实并不全，引他的东西一定要注意。研究美国俚语不是最早的但绝对是学术性的开山鼻祖是Harold Wentworth和Stuart Berg Flexner(此君就不用我介绍了）合著的Dictinary of American Slang, 在该词典dog food条就有此解。