approach@新时代英汉大词典

klwo2 · 发表于 2019-10-16 14:53:53

我纯粹是意外看到的

ground 条目下：

这句的翻译里，mid-没了姑且不说，「演绎学说」是什么？

按说语言学应该是各位编辑的长项呀，这个明明是「基于演绎的路子/路线」！

文馨当代：

进路,通道,引道,入口;(研究学问的)门径,方法,步骤
9 e! s5 D# Q6 ?' s4 i•This book provides a good approach to psychology.本书提供研究心理学的良好门径。 ~2 \1 ~# k4 K- ~2 s# g
•the best approach to the learning of French学习法文的最佳途径* B( B3 x3 B% N1 T# }
•the oral approach(外国语的)口说教学法

了解语言学的人应该也知道，这个「基于演绎的路子/路线」说的是Chomskyan linguistics，人家是有正式名字的，deductive 只是描述其特征，哪有用局部特征直接称呼「学说」的！

不出意外，新时代英汉大词典条下面，approach：

第五个义项，其实是跟文馨当代对应的，但是不如文馨当代说得明白，也许是受《英汉大词典》影响？

第五个义项下面「英国读者看待美国文学，需要采取一种双重态度」，这句话选得也不好，什么叫「双重态度」？编辑说得清楚吗？是爱与恨的态度嘛？

没有上下文，我们可以合理推测，这句话的意思也许是：从英国、美国两种视角看待，毕竟英国、美国文学用的是同一种语言，却有地域差异、文化差异……所以需要从自身的角度，再从他者的角度看……

两个问题：

1. approach 不是学说，翻译不当；
2. approach 本身选的例句不好

woaini123 · 发表于 2019-10-16 15:20:49

deductive approach 演绎法/演绎论？

double approach 双重视角？

belleyeah · 发表于 2019-10-17 10:21:46

棒球之类的体育词汇翻译错误情有可原，语言学的词汇也错，就有点讽刺了。

MYsedulous · 发表于 2020-4-28 16:18:03

从词源看，approach本意是接近事物的方法，后引申为解决问题的办法，那deductive approach无非是推论/演绎法或者学说

klwo2 · 发表于 2020-4-30 16:48:20

MYsedulous 发表于 2020-4-28 16:18
2 P4 [4 U4 V; P3 c从词源看，approach本意是接近事物的方法，后引申为解决问题的办法，那deductive approach无非是推论/演绎 ...

译者当然很可能就是照你这个思路翻的，问题是跟实情不符呀

喬治兄 · 发表于 2020-4-30 17:23:38

本帖最后由喬治兄于 2020-4-30 17:26 编辑

klwo2 发表于 2020-4-30 16:48
: W; b7 R6 ^- \( ]2 Y' D译者当然很可能就是照你这个思路翻的，问题是跟实情不符呀

approach
v
1. near, come near or nearer, draw near or nearer, come close or closer, draw close or closer; draw nigh to, move closer to, Inf. belly up to, edge closer to; come within range, gain on, overtake, catch up to; hail, accost, confront, address, greet, salute, speak to.
2. approximate, nearly equal, come close to; resemble, be much like, be similar to, be comparable to.
3. present, offer, suggest, propose, recommend, advance, sound out; bring up, introduce, mention, broach; bring or put forward, propound, proffer, tender, hold out.
4. set about, begin, start, commence, make a start, take the first step, Inf. get the show on the road.
5. make advances to, make overtures to, proposition, solicit.
n
6. nearness, close approximation, proximity, vicinity, neighborhood, propinquity.
7. access, entrance, entry, entryway, entree, inlet, ingress; ramp, drive, driveway, lane, path, pathway, sidewalk; road, route, roadway, course, street, avenue, boulevard; highway, turnpike, pike, freeway, expressway, parkway, causeway, throughway; main road, highroad, thoroughfare, state highway, U.S. Inf. interstate, state highway, tollroad; speedway, autobahn, superhighway.
8. door, doorway, hatch, gate, gateway, postern, portal; threshold, stile, turnstile, wicket; hall, hallway, passage, passageway, arcade, gangway, walkway, corridor, gallery; lobby, foyer, vestibule, anteroom, waiting room; anteporch, porch, portico.
9. method, procedure, steps, course, mode, way, manner, style.
6 B1 H0 f4 s W( }10. advance, overture, prelude, motion, gesture; offer, invitation, proposal, proposition.
11. presentation, offer, proposal, idea, thought, suggestion, recommendation.

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