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[学习求助] 这句中的accord用的对么?

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    But Mr John­son’s opponents note that his support was weaker than that accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018...
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    8 O/ i9 S$ M" i3 y0 P我怎么觉得应该是 ... than that accorded to Theresa May

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    # y* \5 ?6 o, M9 R1 l6 h2 x0 S你一个不学无术的人总有提不完的问题。“有术”的人发现问题后自己解决问题,还用提?解决问题的流程都不会,只会提问题,不会自己想办法解决问题。人不能这么废,真这么废,直接扔垃圾桶。
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 20:27& I. o3 y# K! L; @9 r# ?
    这里应该是省略to了吧
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    ; N9 d: {' a' h# x0 p! c) G是双宾语,accord这里是vtr, 原意应该是Conservative MPs accorded Theresa May support. 可参考
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    . e; K9 y7 ^4 M4 a7 O+ o( khttps://www.thefreedictionary.com/accord: P0 T% A/ V5 `5 W: a
    https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/accord_2
    / P$ j8 s6 i& d2 k, j# `# f; Caccord someone/something something: Their achievement has not always been accorded the recognition it deserves.
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    发表于 2022-6-15 21:06:11 | 显示全部楼层
    that accorded Theresa May和that accorded to Theresa May两种都是对的,就是约定俗成就这样用,不用加to ,wordreference上有和楼主一模一样的问题,我给你搬过来了5 T# l% o  y4 d  f& M" `* e* \

    8 ~* y6 ?7 ?, z! C. I$ a/ V, Q例句
    7 {$ P% ?6 w8 j# K, YOthers, however, would vastly prefer permanent jobs. They have struggled to deal with the instability, the second-tier status often accorded contractors and other temporary workers and the usual lack of benefits.---taken from the NYT" m, @: O) W2 `- N2 |) J( |

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    Dear all,
    + m: b3 }0 Y3 j9 E5 Z: nShould "accorded" be "accorded to"? Because I think of "accord" as "give". 3 H' L: u0 B) Z5 l2 s$ u# n+ J1 B
    She is accorded respect by her students.
    ( |$ [7 n3 K- [: K7 J( T! n& IHer students accord her respect.
    3 X6 f' @5 J: E$ k1 W, v  }Her students accord respect to her.' P% f& F$ i( k/ F/ d2 i
    Respect is accorded to her by her students." X" b! e  h8 u
    Could you tell me whether my understanding is correct? Thanks.
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    $ S5 [" P3 m$ ^3 P0 N* \" L8 v* l回答
    - a- G: A9 I' A4 AThis is a hard one, LQZ. I don't think that the sentence you've quoted is incorrect, but I don't think that your suggested revision would be wrong either. I would say that the answer has something to do with the fact that "accorded" forms part of a noun clause in the NYT's sentence.
    # F7 p$ f( k/ \"Respect is accorded to her by the students." - fine6 l. N' X$ ?* K/ p, i$ i
    "Respect is accorded her by the students." - somewhat unidiomatic
    , I4 ~, q* b- I"She enjoys the respect accorded to her by the students." - fine3 ^/ R9 A( k2 Z) i
    "She enjoys the respect accorded her by the students." - I find this acceptable
    0 V) o/ ]% D$ w- ~! gIn other words, the bare participle of "accorded"--here used as an adjective--functions differently from the participle as part of a passive construction., Q# |/ ~' D9 U' m' b+ r$ s
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-15 09:34
    7 m2 t/ _- L6 A+ J确实是省略,但我居然都没体味出来

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    7 V' x7 ]1 a& s$ W( I+ G2 q. T! o不是省略,是本来就没有。底下1和2的写法都可以,原句采用1的方式。- r6 n& h- d: _5 s, `$ K4 p8 `- X

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    5 ^& A( }" V) e/ d(a) Conservative mps accorded Theresa May support.6 p( i1 ~& b: f  X2 S# A
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    (b) The support was accorded Theresa May (by conservative mps).3 y: H; s# B1 M0 o( y% G6 |0 V# H+ H
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    (c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 20185 N  P  v" q2 s9 m( @1 U* ?" @
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    (a) Conservative mps accorded support to Theresa May .9 c# P1 B4 d8 s7 g# B5 g- s( j8 u

    2 l, m2 n( l8 ]' D# V: d(b) The support was accorded to Theresa May (by conservative mps).
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    (c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded to Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018

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    这里应该是省略to了吧

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-14 18:51 编辑
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    弹钢琴总有问不完的问题,自己不会查词典,网上找资料?问来问去,别人的时间不宝贵?外语学习交流区第一页几乎都是他发的帖子。

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    你一个不学无术的人当然提不出问题来了  发表于 2022-6-15 09:35
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    应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 18:023 B: k7 z- w. _+ X, i
    应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May

    3 B* o+ B. a7 ~' z% F但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24' i- F" l+ x2 |9 ^3 M+ @
    但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    本来就弱读的。再加上前面的ed,这个音被吞了吧。

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    发表于 2022-6-14 19:21:05 | 显示全部楼层
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。- [, `9 L" x, A. b
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    "Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded President Johnson at roughly the midpoint of the first year of his elected term in 1965."$ X& h, C$ [1 ~6 a/ P/ y# p9 M6 ?

    6 }1 }: p" |9 C$ e) W+ J. @来源:https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/ ... -s-performance.html
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     楼主| 发表于 2022-6-14 19:58:19 | 显示全部楼层
    entropy 发表于 2022-6-14 19:21
    6 v7 K' D! S( r& q9 L. A原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。; t( t  `' F- W: U, d4 I6 X% k8 _

    7 H/ k3 F+ [: @2 v1 b/ H"Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded Pres ...
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    但是为什么可以这样写呢?

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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 19:58, r' L5 b- W( ]! O# h& E7 O
    但是为什么可以这样写呢?
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    不清楚。之前理解错了。
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