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[学习求助] 这句中的accord用的对么?

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    But Mr John­son’s opponents note that his support was weaker than that accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018...2 I4 D+ Z" W* k! S
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    我怎么觉得应该是 ... than that accorded to Theresa May

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-15 09:58 编辑
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    你一个不学无术的人总有提不完的问题。“有术”的人发现问题后自己解决问题,还用提?解决问题的流程都不会,只会提问题,不会自己想办法解决问题。人不能这么废,真这么废,直接扔垃圾桶。
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 20:27
    - f' f9 M$ C" L: u9 g这里应该是省略to了吧

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      F6 i4 ~0 w% o$ q; w2 T: Y是双宾语,accord这里是vtr, 原意应该是Conservative MPs accorded Theresa May support. 可参考
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    1 c8 B; l5 l8 {1 u" E, ~https://www.thefreedictionary.com/accord
    " g" }9 N$ {5 D6 v( Vhttps://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/accord_2  g( a5 p6 l7 p  ]
    accord someone/something something: Their achievement has not always been accorded the recognition it deserves.
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    发表于 2022-6-15 21:06:11 | 显示全部楼层
    that accorded Theresa May和that accorded to Theresa May两种都是对的,就是约定俗成就这样用,不用加to ,wordreference上有和楼主一模一样的问题,我给你搬过来了
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    例句
    - [. v1 V% A& H. zOthers, however, would vastly prefer permanent jobs. They have struggled to deal with the instability, the second-tier status often accorded contractors and other temporary workers and the usual lack of benefits.---taken from the NYT' m. h1 u: ^" J- B! u
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    5 {5 T& J  ]6 f/ J% K& lDear all,
    + b4 X; O# n( z% T4 j: A5 t* oShould "accorded" be "accorded to"? Because I think of "accord" as "give". + k5 n+ c& r) K7 h
    She is accorded respect by her students.  f3 e) R" Y, [
    Her students accord her respect.
    5 s8 i0 K* E& D, E; e, [Her students accord respect to her.! y/ B, y/ g: p7 E$ [
    Respect is accorded to her by her students.
    ! X  W% @9 a7 f% fCould you tell me whether my understanding is correct? Thanks.
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    - u2 h" l$ t9 [* k% F' }This is a hard one, LQZ. I don't think that the sentence you've quoted is incorrect, but I don't think that your suggested revision would be wrong either. I would say that the answer has something to do with the fact that "accorded" forms part of a noun clause in the NYT's sentence., T$ q/ }7 Q8 v" R; I1 p" O
    "Respect is accorded to her by the students." - fine' ^) `* y# J" u1 d& O0 B+ o8 m, C7 o
    "Respect is accorded her by the students." - somewhat unidiomatic
    - W! X. R4 E. p. X4 U- \2 k- U"She enjoys the respect accorded to her by the students." - fine2 ~+ s0 N. m/ S3 n  g7 p  u
    "She enjoys the respect accorded her by the students." - I find this acceptable
    # q" U$ e* q+ IIn other words, the bare participle of "accorded"--here used as an adjective--functions differently from the participle as part of a passive construction.1 w% u) l* g& @( J
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-15 09:34
    3 q) e, k' K+ Y6 S3 j. }; ]0 l确实是省略,但我居然都没体味出来
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    2 a% V- \( K5 i, N' T: i不是省略,是本来就没有。底下1和2的写法都可以,原句采用1的方式。
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    " ^  x, H  R% d(a) Conservative mps accorded Theresa May support.1 c+ h/ p  b8 ?

    0 }" |( u) E4 \; ~: E* @2 K; E(b) The support was accorded Theresa May (by conservative mps).
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    (c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018$ A: X, C7 A9 ~8 r/ v1 q4 n

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    " i( z2 j" h: h+ @- b5 g0 F(a) Conservative mps accorded support to Theresa May ." \/ y& z& n3 X9 b# A" w
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    (b) The support was accorded to Theresa May (by conservative mps)./ c; d2 K- I) e/ z, Q% Z5 B! S

    1 A& [! K8 ~  q9 b3 R(c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded to Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018

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    本帖最后由 sabrina2111 于 2022-6-14 20:29 编辑
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      r- G0 S9 |& N$ M; n5 B' F这里应该是省略to了吧

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-14 18:51 编辑
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    . q# U& ?7 N3 s" ~0 U! {! |, q* _弹钢琴总有问不完的问题,自己不会查词典,网上找资料?问来问去,别人的时间不宝贵?外语学习交流区第一页几乎都是他发的帖子。

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    你一个不学无术的人当然提不出问题来了  发表于 2022-6-15 09:35
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    发表于 2022-6-14 18:02:44 | 显示全部楼层
    应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 18:02- {7 S  q. ^+ r* D: g$ C
    应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May

    ' d0 z9 S+ m. Y# a但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24
    ) R+ D7 c& ~. V, ^, L6 ], m8 D4 {但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    本来就弱读的。再加上前面的ed,这个音被吞了吧。

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    发表于 2022-6-14 19:21:05 | 显示全部楼层
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。
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    "Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded President Johnson at roughly the midpoint of the first year of his elected term in 1965."
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    来源:https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/ ... -s-performance.html
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    entropy 发表于 2022-6-14 19:21$ s" K% X& w( y2 P0 [( C
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。
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    ; M+ D  j9 X2 S4 }0 s1 F% v# z"Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded Pres ...

    0 U& i) @& ?. \2 [2 I但是为什么可以这样写呢?

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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 19:58  c" @0 P2 w5 ]' V8 c4 i
    但是为什么可以这样写呢?
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    不清楚。之前理解错了。
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