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[学习求助] 这句中的accord用的对么?

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    But Mr John­son’s opponents note that his support was weaker than that accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018...
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    我怎么觉得应该是 ... than that accorded to Theresa May

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-15 09:58 编辑 : S0 k9 e' e5 H, v( I! W+ _/ f3 p

      C: j0 [; ]7 [) s你一个不学无术的人总有提不完的问题。“有术”的人发现问题后自己解决问题,还用提?解决问题的流程都不会,只会提问题,不会自己想办法解决问题。人不能这么废,真这么废,直接扔垃圾桶。
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 20:275 Q( F  p4 V" G5 k' O0 u1 y- E
    这里应该是省略to了吧

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    : ~6 Z9 \  M5 B# s& M3 \是双宾语,accord这里是vtr, 原意应该是Conservative MPs accorded Theresa May support. 可参考
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    8 v* c5 V& @  t9 x& Rhttps://www.thefreedictionary.com/accord) \- _2 Z8 ]. W0 F
    https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/accord_26 B! ?5 ?! C" F8 U" r, {4 i
    accord someone/something something: Their achievement has not always been accorded the recognition it deserves.
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    发表于 2022-6-15 21:06:11 | 显示全部楼层
    that accorded Theresa May和that accorded to Theresa May两种都是对的,就是约定俗成就这样用,不用加to ,wordreference上有和楼主一模一样的问题,我给你搬过来了
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    2 S4 `5 M+ t! I) r& ZOthers, however, would vastly prefer permanent jobs. They have struggled to deal with the instability, the second-tier status often accorded contractors and other temporary workers and the usual lack of benefits.---taken from the NYT
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    Dear all,
    * u& |* t0 A/ h+ m- nShould "accorded" be "accorded to"? Because I think of "accord" as "give".
    # L9 c" s% i1 n6 `She is accorded respect by her students.( j1 [( j3 N: f' x
    Her students accord her respect.
    9 G; q4 y" X! S$ E. [1 V5 RHer students accord respect to her.: Y( x, ~0 I) m; T* W
    Respect is accorded to her by her students.
    * ^$ G5 k  n7 @- v' z, g1 g5 z/ ECould you tell me whether my understanding is correct? Thanks.
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    # y3 b3 i1 g6 q! d4 L: w; l5 j回答
    ( u' F+ g9 k' m$ r2 gThis is a hard one, LQZ. I don't think that the sentence you've quoted is incorrect, but I don't think that your suggested revision would be wrong either. I would say that the answer has something to do with the fact that "accorded" forms part of a noun clause in the NYT's sentence.4 Z6 b: b* D9 V9 z' p& V$ \
    "Respect is accorded to her by the students." - fine
    7 D+ W9 R& O6 `2 @"Respect is accorded her by the students." - somewhat unidiomatic
    1 J) H. |, Q4 l; R% o2 }"She enjoys the respect accorded to her by the students." - fine
      G7 X' p, U2 x0 V1 U# T"She enjoys the respect accorded her by the students." - I find this acceptable
    3 `+ a* s) s- u5 _; i2 Z% P" }In other words, the bare participle of "accorded"--here used as an adjective--functions differently from the participle as part of a passive construction.
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    本帖最后由 scju 于 2022-6-15 11:11 编辑 $ K) Y, \  V# |  {6 F8 T
    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-15 09:34
    ) J/ a8 n6 k; G0 m确实是省略,但我居然都没体味出来

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    不是省略,是本来就没有。底下1和2的写法都可以,原句采用1的方式。
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    , u! h* k. h' h! \. w3 y(a) Conservative mps accorded Theresa May support., E0 w! X0 ?1 r3 h% t

    4 W- b! U2 G) S8 s# ?8 M(b) The support was accorded Theresa May (by conservative mps).
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    (c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018* A: Y2 o# E+ e' H( M! b  H6 ~
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    2.
    ' V; o! B) m- Z6 [+ D- {, \$ r! T(a) Conservative mps accorded support to Theresa May .
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    8 h3 ]* v3 {, a+ Q6 t. z- @(b) The support was accorded to Theresa May (by conservative mps).
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    # D& ?& o0 Z# [, K" D(c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded to Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018

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    本帖最后由 sabrina2111 于 2022-6-14 20:29 编辑
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    3 @& G* k, F, y" V1 \6 S2 r这里应该是省略to了吧

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-14 18:51 编辑
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    弹钢琴总有问不完的问题,自己不会查词典,网上找资料?问来问去,别人的时间不宝贵?外语学习交流区第一页几乎都是他发的帖子。

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    你一个不学无术的人当然提不出问题来了  发表于 2022-6-15 09:35
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    应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May
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     楼主| 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24:53 | 显示全部楼层
    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 18:02
    1 D# K# \. O3 y2 M( Y. Y应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May

    ! D& ]$ m( e' ?但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24" r. `- |: T9 D) ]# k* t9 U, [  a
    但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    本来就弱读的。再加上前面的ed,这个音被吞了吧。

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    发表于 2022-6-14 19:21:05 | 显示全部楼层
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。
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    "Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded President Johnson at roughly the midpoint of the first year of his elected term in 1965."! w- V4 f4 A7 [/ t( k

    7 u) u9 g( ^4 R. l( U来源:https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/ ... -s-performance.html
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    entropy 发表于 2022-6-14 19:21; w( A* k/ H# w5 w# I
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。
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    , a7 B- z/ S5 Q% t"Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded Pres ...
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    但是为什么可以这样写呢?

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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 19:58
    " c9 f7 X3 l5 r& S! {1 {$ Z但是为什么可以这样写呢?
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    不清楚。之前理解错了。
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