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[学习求助] 这句中的accord用的对么?

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    But Mr John­son’s opponents note that his support was weaker than that accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018...( @7 D5 q: \9 o2 `. f; B: A6 Y; _
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    我怎么觉得应该是 ... than that accorded to Theresa May

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-15 09:58 编辑 ' i; P$ P! D# I
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    你一个不学无术的人总有提不完的问题。“有术”的人发现问题后自己解决问题,还用提?解决问题的流程都不会,只会提问题,不会自己想办法解决问题。人不能这么废,真这么废,直接扔垃圾桶。
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 20:27
    . L$ R: Q7 n$ C3 \+ r这里应该是省略to了吧
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    是双宾语,accord这里是vtr, 原意应该是Conservative MPs accorded Theresa May support. 可参考. H1 l/ r# q" L/ Z7 F

    5 }# g# v  g1 b$ `0 X9 c8 chttps://www.thefreedictionary.com/accord$ y7 M/ ~- X- r6 P- \. {, }
    https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/accord_2; f8 x# d; |( H: y
    accord someone/something something: Their achievement has not always been accorded the recognition it deserves.
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    发表于 2022-6-15 21:06:11 | 显示全部楼层
    that accorded Theresa May和that accorded to Theresa May两种都是对的,就是约定俗成就这样用,不用加to ,wordreference上有和楼主一模一样的问题,我给你搬过来了) o' }* E; z% h9 a) ]

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    Others, however, would vastly prefer permanent jobs. They have struggled to deal with the instability, the second-tier status often accorded contractors and other temporary workers and the usual lack of benefits.---taken from the NYT
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    Dear all,
    . D' M& H# W8 _1 t, HShould "accorded" be "accorded to"? Because I think of "accord" as "give".
    & Y  y5 C$ E1 M! @She is accorded respect by her students.: E+ Y' I/ U" B& `
    Her students accord her respect. - ]# n- @; J# k3 j
    Her students accord respect to her.
    & R6 ]5 s1 o. F% s' C1 }2 A( tRespect is accorded to her by her students.
    ; a8 _' D4 i+ y9 gCould you tell me whether my understanding is correct? Thanks.
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    回答6 K* r& _  c. |3 i
    This is a hard one, LQZ. I don't think that the sentence you've quoted is incorrect, but I don't think that your suggested revision would be wrong either. I would say that the answer has something to do with the fact that "accorded" forms part of a noun clause in the NYT's sentence.  Y- F1 j, X$ o+ \/ G/ X5 x
    "Respect is accorded to her by the students." - fine0 \$ S5 v6 T, L6 m7 M0 f* Q
    "Respect is accorded her by the students." - somewhat unidiomatic  B, j4 U: @; Z8 r& I6 g
    "She enjoys the respect accorded to her by the students." - fine
    ! Z0 ^# O1 G9 ]"She enjoys the respect accorded her by the students." - I find this acceptable* M' g7 a5 F. d
    In other words, the bare participle of "accorded"--here used as an adjective--functions differently from the participle as part of a passive construction.) H5 E; P7 [" L9 h
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-15 09:34
    , Z) |4 T$ P& d1 _确实是省略,但我居然都没体味出来

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    ! ^1 `. _% X" f) J" k" X! d不是省略,是本来就没有。底下1和2的写法都可以,原句采用1的方式。+ \) m# v3 V+ _, e' j; _5 n7 B9 g
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    & C: A0 ~/ \- n7 k7 e! t- o(a) Conservative mps accorded Theresa May support.0 d4 ]+ O. I. Y3 J! j: n0 U( v4 s2 {
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    1 \# G+ b. a8 v(b) The support was accorded Theresa May (by conservative mps).! k( H! j( c( H# W+ K2 o* A! r6 t! x
    ↓
    & w: |- A7 u  ]* Y( q(c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018
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    " R6 |3 h7 V4 @' m; k(a) Conservative mps accorded support to Theresa May .
    7 Q: O$ @8 E, E4 q; w. o1 T" k) o$ r" F↓
    2 ]8 F; Z1 N! a6 _7 X4 N) V' a(b) The support was accorded to Theresa May (by conservative mps).
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    - A% v/ @3 {, y; k& ]8 ?0 I% Y(c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded to Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018

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    本帖最后由 sabrina2111 于 2022-6-14 20:29 编辑 ' M7 o- g8 H; m5 M0 q$ T- l! W
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    这里应该是省略to了吧

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-14 18:51 编辑 & ^; P- r, W3 _
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    弹钢琴总有问不完的问题,自己不会查词典,网上找资料?问来问去,别人的时间不宝贵?外语学习交流区第一页几乎都是他发的帖子。

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    你一个不学无术的人当然提不出问题来了  发表于 2022-6-15 09:35
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    应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 18:02
    " K5 M: l$ i! W+ A' P9 [应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May
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    但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24
    " x; I; ^6 C6 v# r但是朗读版中也没有读“to”

    + ]2 d+ J7 ?0 \( f' A本来就弱读的。再加上前面的ed,这个音被吞了吧。

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    发表于 2022-6-14 19:21:05 | 显示全部楼层
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。
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    "Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded President Johnson at roughly the midpoint of the first year of his elected term in 1965."! @2 G) c2 p4 u3 M& G4 y. n
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    来源:https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/ ... -s-performance.html
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    entropy 发表于 2022-6-14 19:21! g4 B: r8 n* F9 O: X: e
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。0 Y0 J* `6 X3 X( ?3 B7 b
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    "Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded Pres ...

    0 v; s& S! ?# m0 V! n' j, y但是为什么可以这样写呢?

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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 19:583 }. ~: O6 d/ d3 @
    但是为什么可以这样写呢?

    1 R1 V. j/ W5 `+ e, Z' A0 \不清楚。之前理解错了。
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