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[学习求助] 这句中的accord用的对么?

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    But Mr John­son’s opponents note that his support was weaker than that accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018...
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    3 Y  M: a6 F, s我怎么觉得应该是 ... than that accorded to Theresa May

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-15 09:58 编辑
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    . i+ \4 n' Z9 p3 p& D) L8 {9 F4 u你一个不学无术的人总有提不完的问题。“有术”的人发现问题后自己解决问题,还用提?解决问题的流程都不会,只会提问题,不会自己想办法解决问题。人不能这么废,真这么废,直接扔垃圾桶。
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 20:27
    + L$ l: J, B6 h. \- o; R; N7 B这里应该是省略to了吧

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    是双宾语,accord这里是vtr, 原意应该是Conservative MPs accorded Theresa May support. 可参考' i0 Z. m2 V+ R' Q5 t% i

    5 x& A/ A5 }& I7 y1 B' Phttps://www.thefreedictionary.com/accord
    # V: |+ A* r2 Q3 M( Vhttps://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/accord_2
    - J7 j/ n$ \) x( R3 z1 Z, raccord someone/something something: Their achievement has not always been accorded the recognition it deserves.
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    发表于 2022-6-15 21:06:11 | 显示全部楼层
    that accorded Theresa May和that accorded to Theresa May两种都是对的,就是约定俗成就这样用,不用加to ,wordreference上有和楼主一模一样的问题,我给你搬过来了" p0 P  r. _+ k' ?1 L

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    * n, m# V# `/ ~Others, however, would vastly prefer permanent jobs. They have struggled to deal with the instability, the second-tier status often accorded contractors and other temporary workers and the usual lack of benefits.---taken from the NYT9 H) _! F' [/ t) O9 \7 U* o& ^
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    Dear all,( o' ^6 O* D0 Y; y) c& _% P
    Should "accorded" be "accorded to"? Because I think of "accord" as "give".
    ! A! k5 }$ w6 d& n3 M! rShe is accorded respect by her students.8 ^0 P& S. o4 q
    Her students accord her respect. % M% t2 M5 c7 L. a; f
    Her students accord respect to her.: c) X- h2 ^( t! P- b: t
    Respect is accorded to her by her students.+ X6 ?8 P- i4 ]$ \5 a, d# ]
    Could you tell me whether my understanding is correct? Thanks.
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    4 j& z: s! i6 V( i回答
    . q7 X$ x, m5 n: W" X- U# yThis is a hard one, LQZ. I don't think that the sentence you've quoted is incorrect, but I don't think that your suggested revision would be wrong either. I would say that the answer has something to do with the fact that "accorded" forms part of a noun clause in the NYT's sentence.
    5 s$ Q9 a' T& E5 Y$ u"Respect is accorded to her by the students." - fine
    ( I  A9 X: t* v"Respect is accorded her by the students." - somewhat unidiomatic
    ) I/ M% W: U3 ~7 `; H- ~- _"She enjoys the respect accorded to her by the students." - fine" U# o* N  T* W1 q8 r4 ^
    "She enjoys the respect accorded her by the students." - I find this acceptable4 D) W" j1 J! z8 I' l
    In other words, the bare participle of "accorded"--here used as an adjective--functions differently from the participle as part of a passive construction.
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-15 09:34
    8 u+ `4 r1 B4 }# C6 P1 Z& M确实是省略,但我居然都没体味出来
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    $ `9 W! ^# w  m9 r! D不是省略,是本来就没有。底下1和2的写法都可以,原句采用1的方式。
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    + _. g. d4 E( s( W(a) Conservative mps accorded Theresa May support.0 h2 ~7 d4 k" C

    6 e' G& T! B, Y  J7 J(b) The support was accorded Theresa May (by conservative mps).
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    (c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018, J7 u1 a7 {+ h4 a8 ?# {& o# p( A
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    - G4 P4 T& a- i: N# {, h(a) Conservative mps accorded support to Theresa May .4 C5 }3 m% m+ w3 |& s, q9 I; z

    . o4 ]+ @0 v: a+ h  U5 n5 P(b) The support was accorded to Theresa May (by conservative mps).$ A" j# r& U$ x# P

    + v2 e' O  n/ m0 i, F(c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded to Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018

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    本帖最后由 sabrina2111 于 2022-6-14 20:29 编辑
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    4 {: ^& s6 L5 K2 {6 b* d. s这里应该是省略to了吧

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-14 18:51 编辑
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    弹钢琴总有问不完的问题,自己不会查词典,网上找资料?问来问去,别人的时间不宝贵?外语学习交流区第一页几乎都是他发的帖子。

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    你一个不学无术的人当然提不出问题来了  发表于 2022-6-15 09:35
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    应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 18:02, R2 E! n4 {8 s' ?
    应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May

    $ K, {: C7 }* j$ g# U( H但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24
    * Z7 g8 a% D2 i( t但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    本来就弱读的。再加上前面的ed,这个音被吞了吧。

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    发表于 2022-6-14 19:21:05 | 显示全部楼层
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。+ w6 {& H' X  y2 P# ]; X3 ^0 U, o6 _

    " u7 l' o7 x$ |" L% ?/ x"Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded President Johnson at roughly the midpoint of the first year of his elected term in 1965."
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    来源:https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/ ... -s-performance.html
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    entropy 发表于 2022-6-14 19:217 n7 @* Y5 Q0 f( t2 V& I" }- ?
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。( S$ ]8 N- T$ C2 d9 J/ h8 C
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    "Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded Pres ...

    7 b; {1 h# v6 C7 W5 Q但是为什么可以这样写呢?

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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 19:58+ q# ~5 ?! }6 M! o
    但是为什么可以这样写呢?
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    不清楚。之前理解错了。
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