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[学习求助] 这句中的accord用的对么?

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    But Mr John­son’s opponents note that his support was weaker than that accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018...
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    % t4 W7 g: s/ i% `1 E4 r: t. `' V我怎么觉得应该是 ... than that accorded to Theresa May

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-15 09:58 编辑 1 d) g2 f2 e/ O. a' S

    ; R& Z6 u) R* I. w你一个不学无术的人总有提不完的问题。“有术”的人发现问题后自己解决问题,还用提?解决问题的流程都不会,只会提问题,不会自己想办法解决问题。人不能这么废,真这么废,直接扔垃圾桶。
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    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 20:27' K% g7 k# B7 [  J
    这里应该是省略to了吧

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    是双宾语,accord这里是vtr, 原意应该是Conservative MPs accorded Theresa May support. 可参考# _. |6 P2 h, h1 k; l* V
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    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/accord! `$ m) B1 T4 S% ~
    https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/accord_2) d0 H* G& w2 {5 a% u; R$ b
    accord someone/something something: Their achievement has not always been accorded the recognition it deserves.
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    发表于 2022-6-15 21:06:11 | 显示全部楼层
    that accorded Theresa May和that accorded to Theresa May两种都是对的,就是约定俗成就这样用,不用加to ,wordreference上有和楼主一模一样的问题,我给你搬过来了. l; H" J! s/ c
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    例句4 b# `+ H- A& x* b! J  `, t
    Others, however, would vastly prefer permanent jobs. They have struggled to deal with the instability, the second-tier status often accorded contractors and other temporary workers and the usual lack of benefits.---taken from the NYT
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    . C1 n# E9 |7 O/ A# w! V提问0 X; ?8 m% @$ f: L
    Dear all,
    + k7 N% a; n% o) U5 fShould "accorded" be "accorded to"? Because I think of "accord" as "give".
    2 z( Q9 r0 R. uShe is accorded respect by her students.
    5 {3 h7 p. R4 U3 O2 I, uHer students accord her respect. 9 y6 u/ Y& O5 A
    Her students accord respect to her.* l# f: f2 [# |8 I, O3 N
    Respect is accorded to her by her students.
    , T( k* n/ Q& ^2 M& V- v0 O. `Could you tell me whether my understanding is correct? Thanks.) q) I& s  d# }  ?, j7 N

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    This is a hard one, LQZ. I don't think that the sentence you've quoted is incorrect, but I don't think that your suggested revision would be wrong either. I would say that the answer has something to do with the fact that "accorded" forms part of a noun clause in the NYT's sentence.
    8 `; q3 b5 L$ n2 k. P" e"Respect is accorded to her by the students." - fine* P* u7 p# Y0 X# u/ t
    "Respect is accorded her by the students." - somewhat unidiomatic
    % }5 x# r" L* f"She enjoys the respect accorded to her by the students." - fine- a' a  r; C0 P! M" i! I* z4 p
    "She enjoys the respect accorded her by the students." - I find this acceptable
    3 p' O# a1 {5 Q9 i3 _" I% `In other words, the bare participle of "accorded"--here used as an adjective--functions differently from the participle as part of a passive construction.8 v  @; \8 S! ^6 H$ j& u( W1 z
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    本帖最后由 scju 于 2022-6-15 11:11 编辑
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-15 09:34
    & e; g- K/ v1 c- b1 j+ z! c确实是省略,但我居然都没体味出来

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    " {% q0 e- R7 O/ G不是省略,是本来就没有。底下1和2的写法都可以,原句采用1的方式。" C2 D  U4 s( g- J' S
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    (a) Conservative mps accorded Theresa May support.: w: D: J: [( c0 a

    , W$ I+ `' G* T2 G(b) The support was accorded Theresa May (by conservative mps).
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    (c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018
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    $ c' @( r: F. v. M& E8 X. \9 c! ?(a) Conservative mps accorded support to Theresa May .
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    (b) The support was accorded to Theresa May (by conservative mps).
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    (c) ... than that (= support) (which was) accorded to Theresa May in a similar vote in 2018

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    本帖最后由 sabrina2111 于 2022-6-14 20:29 编辑 / J8 o0 W* @$ ]) g$ ?. @( D! c

    ' V2 d; l, T* S( }4 _9 m$ a+ K' ~  c这里应该是省略to了吧

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    本帖最后由 言叶之庭 于 2022-6-14 18:51 编辑
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    弹钢琴总有问不完的问题,自己不会查词典,网上找资料?问来问去,别人的时间不宝贵?外语学习交流区第一页几乎都是他发的帖子。

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    你一个不学无术的人当然提不出问题来了  发表于 2022-6-15 09:35
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    发表于 2022-6-14 18:02:44 | 显示全部楼层
    应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May
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     楼主| 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24:53 | 显示全部楼层
    sabrina2111 发表于 2022-6-14 18:02
    $ r  F6 T5 |9 s4 {+ X应该是漏了to.相当于support accorded to Theresa May
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    但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 18:24! [2 V4 y: x5 x( S
    但是朗读版中也没有读“to”
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    本来就弱读的。再加上前面的ed,这个音被吞了吧。

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    发表于 2022-6-14 19:21:05 | 显示全部楼层
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。
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    "Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded President Johnson at roughly the midpoint of the first year of his elected term in 1965."+ o$ T( i+ V/ M, [4 V; J
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    来源:https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/ ... -s-performance.html
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     楼主| 发表于 2022-6-14 19:58:19 | 显示全部楼层
    entropy 发表于 2022-6-14 19:213 ?: I5 p* S8 J
    原文没毛病。可以搜到很多类似用例。9 d& @, T% W6 D

    * V  K3 Z1 L6 d"Mr. Reagan's rating is one point higher than that accorded Pres ...

    ! s/ ]/ J# B$ Z但是为什么可以这样写呢?

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    发表于 2022-6-14 20:10:17 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 entropy 于 2022-6-14 22:22 编辑
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    弹钢琴 发表于 2022-6-14 19:58
    & [% f5 B1 j; d1 R但是为什么可以这样写呢?

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