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[词典讨论] idioms和Phrasal verbs词典也是少不了的

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发表于 2014-9-12 20:39:33 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
take the heat# p' n6 `4 y+ f" t$ W; F
sign off on' F2 u& o9 m: C% B- a
take pains to
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这种最讨厌,每个词都认识,连在一起意思就完全不同0 S7 g& c. e6 h/ r  {0 ^: N
多数词典还都不收,或者即使收了,也常常被淹没在主词条的一大堆释义里面,查得率很低
- x3 @& k* g8 [, a+ k8 D这时候就得靠idioms和Phrasal verbs词典: p3 i7 M1 {- K

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相关的资源似乎不多,宇宙盘里只搜到三个
* B) q. v9 f: N; j3 TMcGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms Phrasal Verbs" q8 C2 F' D6 ?/ U6 E" q
Longman Phrasal Verbs Dictionary 2nd Edition
8 g& v) H7 m0 W( zCambridge Phrasal Verbs Dictionary
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传说中的
6 v: ]# {& P  ?% \* o3 G3 D* w% K  n6 VA.P. Cowie Oxford dictionary of phrasal verbs未找到

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发表于 2014-9-12 20:49:18 | 显示全部楼层
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多的是。有空整理整理。
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牛津动词短语词典,有,甚至是双解的,不过是第一版的。! @* E$ d0 H4 w4 I1 V
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看 superfan https://pdawiki.com/forum/thread-7100-1-1.html 牛津短语动词词典.7z http://u.115.com/file/clq40lt6#

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-12 21:19:18 | 显示全部楼层
Oeasy 发表于 2014-9-12 20:49. W$ U/ R- I1 D- v. U
多的是。有空整理整理。
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" Z: C% S5 d8 z牛津动词短语词典,有,甚至是双解的,不过是第一版的。

+ z! h/ }6 K3 }  I) W这个是英汉的,想找个英英的8 `: ~, J3 N3 _

* d7 d" A+ P" Oidioms词典主要有* M! H6 f/ d8 _+ t
NTC's Thematic Dictionary of American Idioms
( c+ Y, ]5 B9 A; `" n" cThe American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms
" D) F9 k! p2 u6 MCambridge Idioms Dictionary" z# H" ^! M* k  v
Oxford Idiom 2004(这个什么都查不出来,没研究具体因为什么)
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4 Y) e9 t+ B& H4 f6 z0 F) z主要问题是,无论idioms还是phrasal verbs词典,都没有那种大全集一站式的+ U* L0 A" C& |( b  v8 E
有的收了这个有的收了那个,很零散,义项收的也不全
! u, F! y1 p9 P. q感觉各家出版社对这块都不太用心' @2 u7 r! H- c) c8 ?7 e

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Oxford 那本的问题在于 headword 都是单词,而词组没有提取出来单列。它的例句给了出处,还是有特点的。  发表于 2016-3-10 10:09
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2014-9-12 21:47:57 | 显示全部楼层
    全局搜索好像比什么都强:(longman5 extra)
    $ z$ v- j, ?3 r+ X8 S8 M. }$ xzgrep "sign off on" lextra.txt.xz
    1 b0 M5 b  j  V# A7 q                ▪ Question: How difficult was it for you, personally, to sign off on this deal?( ?. j8 [9 R- s2 H
                    ▪ How could you not sign off on that?
    : m9 _9 m4 r0 L% E  m  o! z2 U+ C8 X6 V                ▪ Question: How difficult was it for you, personally, to sign off on this deal?" x$ W" q5 Q* ?
                    ▪ Dalton, a 1964 academy graduate who spoke on honor at the academy last week, must sign off on the expulsion.* z3 ^0 G2 Z5 w
                    ▪ President Clinton also is expected to sign off on the plan.! L# U2 i% N6 D9 T
    $ xzgrep "take the heat" lextra.txt.xz
    / _: L& y' r0 q3 v/ D                ▪ The election will take the heat off the constitutional issue, at least for the time being.
    ' K0 v- w4 e' z  f8 x% W# @6 J                ▪ Lowell's humour - unexpected - that could take the heat out of a fraught situation.
    - y/ U# _6 N. m                ▪ Hormones take the heat off Thousands of women suffer menopausal symptoms which could be relieved by a course of Hormone Replacement Therapy

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     楼主| 发表于 2014-9-12 21:58:02 | 显示全部楼层
    spoony1971 发表于 2014-9-12 21:47
      ?/ C. h( z: J7 f! s全局搜索好像比什么都强:(longman5 extra)
    / m  s- Y4 W- j. d) O: P+ f9 F$ xzgrep "sign off on" lextra.txt.xz - N$ I0 f5 v* t/ ?0 J2 w! c
                    & ...

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    5 t6 H) v  V- d估计全宇宙只有你这样用1 O: k# P) U, B, u7 c3 E- y
    我是懒得敲字

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    本帖最后由 zxjsjd 于 2014-9-13 06:17 编辑
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    这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富、体例最严密。.
    4 ]& h; a  B6 g4 b! m7 {( w5 @: ihttp://book.douban.com/subject/1007151/
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    [LV.Master]伴坛终老

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    本帖最后由 wwoxxoyy 于 2014-9-13 07:22 编辑 & j+ |6 l0 Y+ ^7 o) c* Z
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    sign off on something! N( z2 Q6 q) R8 R
    to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees with the state of something. The publisher signed off on the book and sent it to be printed. I refuse to sign off on this project until it is done correctly.% ]4 D2 j) v1 k/ {
    See also: sign+ t0 j3 b! ]" J% r( C8 H
    McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
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    # P- s% O5 q8 \9 D$ p2 gake the heat and take some heat! X( `7 n; Z: r/ d- B( I& g8 `$ r/ z
    Sl. to receive or put up with criticism (for something). The cops have been taking some heat about the Quincy killing. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.0 X+ S- V) h+ H
    See also: heat, take
    * ^7 h2 K, d' z7 v2 {  ^McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.) N5 [0 X3 L$ i
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    take (great) pains to do something also go to (great) pains to do something) X( Q/ Y) d9 t& n) n- D
    to try very hard to do something We took great pains to insure that no one felt left out.+ q- P: X; Z* t
    Related vocabulary: go to great lengths to do something
    0 H; g  C1 N, I2 ^8 u5 G# YSee also: pain, take- \! K, U5 }+ m& B; _1 x# [2 M
    Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms Copyright © Cambridge University Press 2003. Reproduced with permission.5 r$ L2 G; a! E, d" Y) K

    * j( i' H% M& k2 {4 G& gtake a shot at someone or something % h) g( P2 ^% Q% ^- ?
    1. to fire a shot at someone or something. The hunter took a shot at the deer. Who took a shot at my mailbox?" N: G0 Q/ M' X" h6 y
    2. Go to a try at something.
    8 @& s- K2 ~1 r7 }( A% l* CSee also: shot, take
    3 C* c) Z: G. v' r  r) ]McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
      v4 ^5 l7 @" `% `- Xtake a shot at something also have a shot at something- _* D- w! U4 |; j/ e5 J
    to make an attempt to do something give something a shot I wasn't sure of the answer, but I thought I'd take a shot at it anyway. He's proven himself to be a talented actor and now he's having a shot at directing.
    ( e$ u# p8 U9 r3 K1 _+ _Related vocabulary: give something a whirl
    % j2 l& d  M" q* uSee also: shot, take
    ( U9 F% z9 m& s, B( ZCambridge Dictionary of American Idioms Copyright © Cambridge University Press 2003. Reproduced with permission.
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    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/
    8 X; _, B5 V& h' B这个网站可能有你想要的,它的特点就是:引用别人的。2 E& w( V/ c4 w" r- @  g) L1 X0 y
    要是能提取出来,可以做一个很全面的词典,应为它就是各类词典的打包。
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    发表于 2014-9-13 08:25:56 | 显示全部楼层
    或者即使收了,也常常被淹没在主词条的一大堆释义里面,查得率很低

    ' \2 |  Q% l1 r) n, b% f* V$ b2 U解析下这些义,独立出来不行吗?分公快点,别重复

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    发表于 2014-9-13 16:48:36 | 显示全部楼层
    wwoxxoyy 发表于 2014-9-13 07:12
      I. H' y1 O; o, b5 l$ U% psign off on something% }3 Y$ G2 J4 i" p
    to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees wi ...

    ( C3 o. J: o" X; aTFD的确比较全,许多人查询时将其拍在reference.com前。

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    发表于 2014-9-14 23:03:33 | 显示全部楼层
    bt4baidu, 你那麽懂得計算機, 有什麼資源會拿不到啊
    ; q9 F: g/ \. L/ _& I/ z& f羨慕
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

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    本帖最后由 cnlion 于 2014-9-15 02:02 编辑
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    zxjsjd 发表于 2014-9-13 06:14' f! V  W# v& f* U" E. g8 B0 E/ G% O7 M
    这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富 ...

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    : Y5 g$ K5 I$ u+ I, I这个有电子版,万能的X宝上就有卖的, 呵呵。 我有实体书, 不过说实在的,用着不太顺手。

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    发表于 2014-9-15 08:08:02 | 显示全部楼层
    cnlion 发表于 2014-9-15 02:01
    - g5 |) @7 [8 L" Z2 h) d7 p这个有电子版,万能的X宝上就有卖的, 呵呵。 我有实体书, 不过说实在的,用着不太顺手。

    ) m- f, Y/ A: h. a: B! [我没找到电子版,没办法在X宝上买的实体书。
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

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    本帖最后由 bolome1 于 2014-9-15 13:13 编辑
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    ( o+ H4 i7 }& j; g4 X$ _  p& E我一直以来是这么查短语的:
    8 Y* f# b1 u$ J* C3 i在 朗文双解4 查了上面的几个词组,都能查到,不过需分别查heat,sign,pain,shot,再在GD里面ctrl+f,很快就能找到。
    & I+ K2 L3 O2 U" d有时候柯林斯,韦氏高阶学习词典也能补充一下。6 h5 I+ p$ M4 O8 Y
    当然如果有本大而全的专门查短语的词典是极好的^_^
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    [朗文双解4]
    ( \: ]: m- ?: \" ]% g- ?& O[U] strong feelings, especially anger or excitement 强烈的感情;愤怒;激动:
    , h# k% l1 b1 z7 u/ P" Q8 M) Y# lReconciliation services can take the heat out of (=reduce the anger in)the dispute. 仲裁服务可以缓解冲突。  ?: ~: e9 K7 w8 ^( x

    8 D+ G5 |7 Y6 K% Usign sth ↔off BrE 【英】; sign off on sth AmE 【美】to show that you approve of a plan or that something is finished by signing an official document 签字认可;签字确认…已完成:
    + f2 g% X* K& P' ^8 c( DMajor repainting work now needs to be signed off by a qualified engineer. 现在重要的重新油漆工作需要有资质的工程师签字认可。
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    take/go to (great) pains to do sth also 又作 take pains with/over sth to make a special effort to do something 煞费苦心做某事;十分努力地做某事:# j+ R/ O8 o" G  F* v
    He’s taken great pains to improve his image. 他煞费苦心地改善自己的形象。
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    # Z  u" ?1 ?- u) e$ C4 X4 ~" o5 s[C] a)an act of firing a gun 开枪:
    # u& G/ X3 T8 x" R7 L9 m; EA crazy man took a shot at her (=tried to shoot her)from a rooftop. 一名精神错乱的男子从屋顶朝她开了一枪。1 P$ T* z* ]1 ^$ b" F* Q* C6 X

    ; B1 C" _: F" d/ B3 ~' M4 {3 {& {3 F[韦氏高阶学习]5 u4 M$ U# r2 [6 G* A0 j9 J! Z
    criticism or abuse; q( J1 V, W4 }4 i, Y
    He will likely take/get a lot of heat for his decision
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    " y) k; R. j/ u( N5 X) S8 B* W[牛津双解7]6 ?0 ^' z" r; _; v
    [U] pressure on sb to do or achieve sth 压力;逼迫:
    % I- O, ]- U' c2 FCan she take the heat of this level of competition?
    , N4 j5 h6 B, K她承受得了比赛到这个阶段的压力吗?
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      {  c3 y  L* p$ W# b通过一番查询能找出传统词典的不足:take the heat 至少在不同的语境下有两个意思。
    4 p+ e0 F1 ^) \, x3 l+ `刚查询 http://www.wordandphrase.info/analyzeText.asp ,take the heat也算是比较常见的表达了,作为短语收词似乎没有啥不妥。

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    发表于 2014-9-26 05:07:02 | 显示全部楼层
    还有这个An Asperger Dictionary of Everyday Expressions,MDICT资料库有的
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

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    本帖最后由 brianleeeee 于 2014-9-26 11:13 编辑
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    zxjsjd 发表于 2014-9-13 06:149 V8 v  T% g- r- h+ C# O
    这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富 ...
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    PDF文件算电子版吗?

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    发表于 2014-9-26 18:41:27 | 显示全部楼层
    brianleeeee 发表于 2014-9-26 11:11
    9 B- ^% k6 r; \6 XPDF文件算电子版吗?
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    当然算
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    [LV.4]偶尔看看III

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    wwoxxoyy 发表于 2014-9-13 07:12
    2 a6 m' i  S/ h1 P& M% ssign off on something; }1 ~. G, T3 i/ \* O
    to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees wit ...
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    就是这个在线网站 所有遇到的词组都能查到
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