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[词典讨论] idioms和Phrasal verbs词典也是少不了的

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发表于 2014-9-12 20:39:33 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
take the heat; m8 J1 G" b$ l0 F
sign off on
5 o- I1 n1 q$ p" rtake pains to3 J7 p6 Z% B" h7 B) S! a1 V9 k: D& Y9 S
take a shot at
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2 j' f; {# V5 h+ ^7 ?2 i; ~" @4 f这种最讨厌,每个词都认识,连在一起意思就完全不同
; b% `2 |& q9 a! {- H8 i( O/ _多数词典还都不收,或者即使收了,也常常被淹没在主词条的一大堆释义里面,查得率很低
& _. n9 y' B" B  n; {& z( N3 G这时候就得靠idioms和Phrasal verbs词典
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相关的资源似乎不多,宇宙盘里只搜到三个. \1 E0 r7 ~3 m4 }
McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms Phrasal Verbs
5 N7 G  c0 O# l  h0 M$ b/ rLongman Phrasal Verbs Dictionary 2nd Edition
$ |$ {" Q$ j9 ?3 F% }1 `8 z" OCambridge Phrasal Verbs Dictionary; Y5 L6 r) A! F; ^: I; t

) C0 N3 g/ G; ~1 y传说中的
& e4 m; C! h0 H1 c+ `A.P. Cowie Oxford dictionary of phrasal verbs未找到

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发表于 2014-9-12 20:49:18 | 显示全部楼层

: v, g. a0 E" u+ p6 N* |9 }多的是。有空整理整理。
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. G: r$ T$ e/ t$ t牛津动词短语词典,有,甚至是双解的,不过是第一版的。
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# g# c2 E$ P3 D0 b看 superfan https://pdawiki.com/forum/thread-7100-1-1.html 牛津短语动词词典.7z http://u.115.com/file/clq40lt6#

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-12 21:19:18 | 显示全部楼层
Oeasy 发表于 2014-9-12 20:494 U" R0 V5 z( i( n4 q1 h* U. U" L
多的是。有空整理整理。$ d+ J' U6 T& a3 ?

* E# W8 H7 j+ g3 m牛津动词短语词典,有,甚至是双解的,不过是第一版的。
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这个是英汉的,想找个英英的* ~, W; V. F/ E
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idioms词典主要有
$ G4 a  `+ X, x7 G. i5 b& cNTC's Thematic Dictionary of American Idioms1 D7 K# P4 p2 ~( ?+ r4 S
The American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms3 ~7 q3 P( f( J# _+ ?$ o0 l; b' |
Cambridge Idioms Dictionary
* L- j0 L3 `4 G" J, R# n4 ZOxford Idiom 2004(这个什么都查不出来,没研究具体因为什么)% U! P  ?, ?: T2 `7 b( @0 L
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主要问题是,无论idioms还是phrasal verbs词典,都没有那种大全集一站式的
3 ]8 u: M2 v1 }有的收了这个有的收了那个,很零散,义项收的也不全1 F- T# ]( M9 ^/ q
感觉各家出版社对这块都不太用心
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Oxford 那本的问题在于 headword 都是单词,而词组没有提取出来单列。它的例句给了出处,还是有特点的。  发表于 2016-3-10 10:09
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2014-9-12 21:47:57 | 显示全部楼层
    全局搜索好像比什么都强:(longman5 extra)0 y  w( i0 \, W
    $ xzgrep "sign off on" lextra.txt.xz
    0 K2 a) u; V7 f; |7 V: U                ▪ Question: How difficult was it for you, personally, to sign off on this deal?& o  q1 M% z  Y4 P
                    ▪ How could you not sign off on that?/ [) ^9 J; ]1 h# |& g" d0 v* F& T
                    ▪ Question: How difficult was it for you, personally, to sign off on this deal?- y) j9 `* V& b9 s' x% F* m9 V3 P
                    ▪ Dalton, a 1964 academy graduate who spoke on honor at the academy last week, must sign off on the expulsion./ s! G# R* Z* ^
                    ▪ President Clinton also is expected to sign off on the plan.' \! k! I. B( p- v& U4 w8 z
    $ xzgrep "take the heat" lextra.txt.xz , E2 F& ^* N- Q1 s  J* b( c8 j5 `
                    ▪ The election will take the heat off the constitutional issue, at least for the time being.+ n8 I( c% t% q3 m: @9 b
                    ▪ Lowell's humour - unexpected - that could take the heat out of a fraught situation.
    8 V! _, ?1 R/ S7 W5 C. I- ?7 t                ▪ Hormones take the heat off Thousands of women suffer menopausal symptoms which could be relieved by a course of Hormone Replacement Therapy

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     楼主| 发表于 2014-9-12 21:58:02 | 显示全部楼层
    spoony1971 发表于 2014-9-12 21:47
    0 L9 t6 }/ ]6 V* i5 G4 g( V% Z* q全局搜索好像比什么都强:(longman5 extra)  f1 F' u/ n* P7 Q
    $ xzgrep "sign off on" lextra.txt.xz ; T) M5 d9 z: J2 c
                    & ...
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    3 U% i) ?8 g( F% H估计全宇宙只有你这样用& r/ T1 N2 F! K/ _) L  E! L  [
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    本帖最后由 zxjsjd 于 2014-9-13 06:17 编辑 $ I: j, Y! i/ @/ _& o; S; W8 {
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    这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富、体例最严密。.
    2 N, b0 A4 D! Y# ?; y; ]! z7 Ohttp://book.douban.com/subject/1007151/
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    [LV.Master]伴坛终老

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    本帖最后由 wwoxxoyy 于 2014-9-13 07:22 编辑 / V6 n& f% m) R+ \1 O, t! ^+ j

    2 O; Z) [" X0 j1 rsign off on something! K, y* O8 Z/ |$ p
    to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees with the state of something. The publisher signed off on the book and sent it to be printed. I refuse to sign off on this project until it is done correctly.1 A! P& S; V( R: P
    See also: sign
    7 v" U7 s( R  J, |! `7 Z/ vMcGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
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    ake the heat and take some heat4 B1 g5 v( [& |4 y" o
    Sl. to receive or put up with criticism (for something). The cops have been taking some heat about the Quincy killing. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
    2 m, J( z0 j. M- |$ h! sSee also: heat, take
    & q- ^7 p$ N& z7 i: Q/ N2 {2 IMcGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc." f' n. j* V& R. o  l7 Q

    ( c, E+ k2 i% T7 a1 u' F3 Htake (great) pains to do something also go to (great) pains to do something5 x+ {: K7 E0 L1 P
    to try very hard to do something We took great pains to insure that no one felt left out.0 |3 `- M  w6 h, q9 Z- J
    Related vocabulary: go to great lengths to do something
    5 b) i. Y; F4 }See also: pain, take
    # y9 u- I  N, R% I2 ~Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms Copyright © Cambridge University Press 2003. Reproduced with permission.
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    . ^0 z# s  S/ i% z; ptake a shot at someone or something 6 ]" y1 z8 ~- n% w
    1. to fire a shot at someone or something. The hunter took a shot at the deer. Who took a shot at my mailbox?" S" R8 k! d9 P0 v7 B. X. o
    2. Go to a try at something.. G! d! T! c  |0 m1 s# \
    See also: shot, take
    / n& u/ q- j# j4 c0 `1 @McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.: h. l3 t) q9 \4 w
    take a shot at something also have a shot at something" V2 _7 J4 v1 m& S" T
    to make an attempt to do something give something a shot I wasn't sure of the answer, but I thought I'd take a shot at it anyway. He's proven himself to be a talented actor and now he's having a shot at directing.
    ! B1 `7 i. F6 ^# J* L6 mRelated vocabulary: give something a whirl, }% r# N* D1 q7 R; m' P7 m
    See also: shot, take4 n% ?3 p; ?# `
    Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms Copyright © Cambridge University Press 2003. Reproduced with permission.& h( u: O4 h5 H+ ]0 [5 @

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    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/0 O! v; e/ L# B) O
    这个网站可能有你想要的,它的特点就是:引用别人的。; e6 `$ d! Y8 e7 o( ^7 R4 Y. t% M
    要是能提取出来,可以做一个很全面的词典,应为它就是各类词典的打包。/ l5 x- r) p4 R2 R' D9 p
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    发表于 2014-9-13 08:25:56 | 显示全部楼层
    或者即使收了,也常常被淹没在主词条的一大堆释义里面,查得率很低
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    解析下这些义,独立出来不行吗?分公快点,别重复

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    发表于 2014-9-13 16:48:36 | 显示全部楼层
    wwoxxoyy 发表于 2014-9-13 07:12
    ) ^" ?+ G" M* r% g* @  y, I4 |/ Rsign off on something8 V- U/ R* i5 i# [+ y% }: s( h
    to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees wi ...
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    TFD的确比较全,许多人查询时将其拍在reference.com前。

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    发表于 2014-9-14 23:03:33 | 显示全部楼层
    bt4baidu, 你那麽懂得計算機, 有什麼資源會拿不到啊 & S  r3 P8 d( h* p% J7 p
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

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    zxjsjd 发表于 2014-9-13 06:14
    / [& C$ B! \' L9 A& e这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富 ...

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    9 n. Q4 W+ \4 F2 o# \1 J这个有电子版,万能的X宝上就有卖的, 呵呵。 我有实体书, 不过说实在的,用着不太顺手。

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    发表于 2014-9-15 08:08:02 | 显示全部楼层
    cnlion 发表于 2014-9-15 02:01) l. K9 K  r3 E; M' V& ^" N2 X
    这个有电子版,万能的X宝上就有卖的, 呵呵。 我有实体书, 不过说实在的,用着不太顺手。

    0 W: R1 h' T4 a我没找到电子版,没办法在X宝上买的实体书。
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

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    本帖最后由 bolome1 于 2014-9-15 13:13 编辑 3 {! G! g- r; @" w

    7 K4 y  k6 U$ u4 k1 g% y) I我一直以来是这么查短语的:( O- k: N7 v' L. W& u
    在 朗文双解4 查了上面的几个词组,都能查到,不过需分别查heat,sign,pain,shot,再在GD里面ctrl+f,很快就能找到。, U- Z5 V  @* |9 |7 ~- ]
    有时候柯林斯,韦氏高阶学习词典也能补充一下。6 j/ d) O6 |0 K6 N
    当然如果有本大而全的专门查短语的词典是极好的^_^* G0 P6 t6 ^% R- f% M

    ) o" W. B" M. M8 T  F[朗文双解4]# I2 X' ~& @, s: k4 I/ v: K
    [U] strong feelings, especially anger or excitement 强烈的感情;愤怒;激动:* W/ V, h3 T( K) g
    Reconciliation services can take the heat out of (=reduce the anger in)the dispute. 仲裁服务可以缓解冲突。0 n- s; b& g9 z: f. D3 p$ \
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    sign sth ↔off BrE 【英】; sign off on sth AmE 【美】to show that you approve of a plan or that something is finished by signing an official document 签字认可;签字确认…已完成:
      r& T* S; z: K9 h+ J3 C# ]0 N5 dMajor repainting work now needs to be signed off by a qualified engineer. 现在重要的重新油漆工作需要有资质的工程师签字认可。$ d9 K6 K+ G5 m& p5 E8 U
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    take/go to (great) pains to do sth also 又作 take pains with/over sth to make a special effort to do something 煞费苦心做某事;十分努力地做某事:
    - `5 f# a( O7 GHe’s taken great pains to improve his image. 他煞费苦心地改善自己的形象。
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    * ?; B) _! {% L7 x! {: }8 Q[C] a)an act of firing a gun 开枪:
    ; L+ n+ P' D' K# K! }' b8 W2 V! d, RA crazy man took a shot at her (=tried to shoot her)from a rooftop. 一名精神错乱的男子从屋顶朝她开了一枪。
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    criticism or abuse
      _/ D0 B" C. f4 a& @8 \7 G( JHe will likely take/get a lot of heat for his decision$ w( ^' H( y. o. Z

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    [U] pressure on sb to do or achieve sth 压力;逼迫:! t, E6 b5 U5 I
    Can she take the heat of this level of competition?
    1 ?) {- z; @% l) m; n* J她承受得了比赛到这个阶段的压力吗?
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    " a, I& A; c- ~- f! }/ J. T通过一番查询能找出传统词典的不足:take the heat 至少在不同的语境下有两个意思。  a4 ?) j  c" M; [$ K
    刚查询 http://www.wordandphrase.info/analyzeText.asp ,take the heat也算是比较常见的表达了,作为短语收词似乎没有啥不妥。

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    发表于 2014-9-26 05:07:02 | 显示全部楼层
    还有这个An Asperger Dictionary of Everyday Expressions,MDICT资料库有的
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

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    本帖最后由 brianleeeee 于 2014-9-26 11:13 编辑
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    zxjsjd 发表于 2014-9-13 06:144 g7 Z9 _; r$ ~9 J* g' t
    这本最好,可惜没有电子版。而且也没见国内出版第二版。外研社说这本书取材最精审、解释最详明、例证最丰富 ...

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    + D% Q7 u, z. {2 q1 t+ \2 v2 |' _PDF文件算电子版吗?

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    发表于 2014-9-26 18:41:27 | 显示全部楼层
    brianleeeee 发表于 2014-9-26 11:11& {# t9 B# g5 Q
    PDF文件算电子版吗?
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    当然算
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    [LV.4]偶尔看看III

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    wwoxxoyy 发表于 2014-9-13 07:12
    ! Q/ Y) i5 h$ i% }9 `sign off on something  X5 e! B6 j) p9 X
    to sign a paper, indicating that one has finished with something or agrees wit ...

    0 q* o! e! }# I( u5 ]; H就是这个在线网站 所有遇到的词组都能查到
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