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[语言求助] consult lawyers or consult with lawyers

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发表于 2016-11-21 10:07:17 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 Littlebush 于 2016-11-21 10:14 编辑
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近期的NYT有这么一个句子Jared Kushner, the son-in-law of President-elect Donald Trump, has consulted with lawyers about the possibility of joining the new administration, a move that could run afoul of federal nepotism laws and would all but certainly invite legal challenges. 印象中consult doctor/lawyer等professional的时候应该是vt,查词典也是vt,那么这个consult with 是否属于误用?BTW,英语中的名词的数和动词的及物或非及物确实让人头痛。
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    [LV.8]以坛为家I

    发表于 2016-11-21 11:32:03 | 显示全部楼层
    consult 做及物动词是“咨询”,做不及物动词是“商量”,楼主又不查词典

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    发表于 2016-11-21 12:28:28 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 spearonsquare 于 2016-11-21 12:46 编辑
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    Consult: vt, vi7 K. l/ ?# h8 e* {, E
    to ask for information or advice from someone because it is their job to know something:
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    //If symptoms persist, consult a doctor without delay.3 ^7 Y0 U6 ?/ `! A

    2 |8 \1 B7 z( ^consult somebody about something
    6 j: x( _  |% ]' c: v//An increasing number of people are consulting their accountants about the tax laws.
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    //consult with:
    ; U# s9 @) @! HI need to consult with my lawyer.
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    //see/consult a lawyer (=talk to a lawyer for advice)" R8 K7 }$ \7 `4 P
    She has consulted a lawyer and is considering whether to sue Bailey.: f0 n2 V) ]  C, X$ s9 i- e8 z2 k
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    vt.
    9 T: `) d% _0 {  yto ask advice of : seek the opinion of : apply to for information or instruction
    $ R1 g" F0 \' o# a; }) O" Y0 Yconsult a doctor about an ailment
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    ! h; S8 f) e+ @. O1 r' @0 Ito take counsel : deliberate together : confer9 v% h9 L) L: B
    after consulting with a lawyer/ r% A1 Q; W! F, F8 S% J1 J: h
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    to ask the advice or opinion of 2 ?; j1 o0 O$ O; W9 O& o
    * consult a doctor
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    : Q9 Z0 C7 @. h2 }to consult an individual

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     楼主| 发表于 2016-11-21 12:55:22 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 Littlebush 于 2016-11-21 13:06 编辑
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    嗯,开始没查朗文,正确的usage应该是做查词典、地图等时时vt,做咨询、商量解时vt vi均可以,还可以这么理解,如果consult的是sb,vt vi均可以,consult的是sth,例如dictionary、map etc,vt,简单准确。
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    [LV.8]以坛为家I

    发表于 2016-11-21 15:40:45 | 显示全部楼层
    consult with 是属于北美用法

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    发表于 2016-11-21 16:00:48 | 显示全部楼层
    petergaoshanwei 发表于 2016-11-21 15:40- C6 ?6 J9 [; C' Z
    consult with 是属于北美用法
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    感谢peter的解释。
    & u. O$ C8 T5 s5 y的确有一点区别:
    1 d! f' }% ?+ Z8 F9 Zhttp://forum.wordreference.com/t ... nsult-with.2262139/
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    ! M3 S0 u! J& c5 s6 {* c( g' FIf you consult with someone then you each consult the other, on an equal footing. For example:0 c+ K( ^, P- s/ g
    [*=1]"What time do you and your wife want to visit us this evening?"[*=1]"I don't know---I need to consult with her first"[*=1]The two of you then consult with each other to agree what answer to give./ b5 [, c7 K' J. E9 A. Q$ h
    If you consult someone, they have some information or an opinion, and you go to them in order to get it from them. It only happens in one direction. For example:
      m3 J' N# D% s0 g8 {9 }9 a/ E8 I[*=1]If you feel ill, you should consult a doctor.7 r) _! H' w0 C+ Z0 n
    [*=1]To check the meaning of a word, I consult my dictionary.
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    [LV.3]偶尔看看II

    发表于 2016-11-21 22:21:56 | 显示全部楼层
    consult with sb (about/on sth)◆Consult with your physician about possible treatments.向你的醫生咨詢可行的治療方

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     楼主| 发表于 2016-11-22 11:14:56 | 显示全部楼层
    spearonsquare 发表于 2016-11-21 16:00
    5 s5 ~7 \, H9 `. @0 W+ C8 y: N4 g感谢peter的解释。. m' U* ]1 M5 ~) O( U2 m
    的确有一点区别:+ m* E8 Z5 P$ g: f1 k/ i
    http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/consult-and-consult-wi ...

    7 `+ ?( x+ R* G/ z区别其实很微弱,也可以说没有区别。真正的要害在于:当做seek professional advice or discuss with sb to make a decision这2个意思解的时候,consult 或 consult with均可以,consult with也并非北美用法,我也经常看到美国的医学方面的报道用的consult your doctor这样的说法,btw,有人说doctor是英国的用法,美国说physician,但其实并非如此,美国也经常说doctor。All in all,语言这玩意很多时候没有特比clear-cut的distinction,这给user造成很大的困扰。

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    感谢,英语的确“特例”太多。  发表于 2016-11-22 15:03
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