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[语言讨论] 音标与实际发音不符@naked -ed?

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    发表于 2018-2-25 12:34:39 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
    naked中ed发音。美式发音,到底是 id 还是 əd
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    ' w0 q0 y% `- f  v( SMacmillan注的很清楚,! {( F3 h$ p. r8 P+ O1 |1 u" n
    英式:
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    ) w! ]1 Q8 y/ r/ q: L' f; g美式:
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    所以,
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    AHD的表音符号比较特殊:
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    2 w/ V$ ^9 d' \0 {. j- C但恕我耳浊,听读音听不出来什么差异,感觉都是id3 _! _3 l5 c5 n2 U1 K

    % r$ N" n) I$ w/ @/ z0 `) d然后有意思的来了,朗文的-ed读音,标注如下,但朗读和标注并不一致:7 x8 S# O3 T( [6 U$ x
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    1 W' ~/ k& j( J  K; W8 ?不知道大家怎么看,美式的əd和英式的id有多大差别呢?# z1 \# k/ y9 M0 r- \/ u% N4 J
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    发表于 2018-2-25 13:04:41 | 显示全部楼层
    This discussion on Reddit may shed some light on the question raised above.
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    1. https://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/45szna/the_suffix_ed_in_american_english_can_be/
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    The current IPA key used in the English Wikipedia writes this reduced vowel that can be either [ɪ] or [ə] in shorthand as /ᵻ/ following the Oxford English Dictionary (e.g. needed /ˈniːdᵻd/, rested /ˈrɛstᵻd/).( a+ x$ {6 X: N: ?
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    There are some words where you would use /ᵻd/ for -ed even after consonants that are not /d/ or /t/, especially adjectives such as rugged /ˈrʌɡᵻd/ or naked /ˈneɪkᵻd/. In American English, [ə] tends to be higher and more like [ɪ] when it's next to /ɡ/ or /k/ (witness the eye-dialect spelling 'Linkin' for Lincoln), so in reality it would be difficult to decide if you're actually hearing [ˈrʌɡɪd] and [ˈneɪkɪd] or [ˈrʌɡəd] and [ˈneɪkəd] for these examples.

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    感谢鱼大的回复,豁然开朗:)  发表于 2018-2-25 13:12
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