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[语言讨论] 感觉韦氏对近义词的辨析很模糊

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    [LV.5]常住居民I

    发表于 2018-3-17 22:04:55 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
    我感觉韦氏(包括韦小黄)对近义词的辨析总是跟没辨一样。
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    看完了一遍你还是不知道区别是什么。或者说对每个词的解释其实也没什么区别。1 u: F% R( r" T3 y0 w

    0 J; c3 ~- m! t: N' y不知道你们有没有同感。

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    [LV.8]以坛为家I

    发表于 2018-3-17 22:11:02 | 显示全部楼层
    没有,我觉得很明白,weird奇怪,eerie是那种比较可怕的怪异,uncanny凄异
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    [LV.9]以坛为家II

    发表于 2018-3-18 17:09:52 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 thinkinginlast 于 2018-3-18 17:18 编辑 ) ?  y( r+ u$ _$ ?) u6 r( X+ B

    ' }5 a, g! e9 V. |( i5 U看起来,确实如楼上所说,明显有差别。体会下例子。学好母语对外语有帮助,心理反应是一致的。: e, Q: Y; [' ^( R( P0 y1 x
    weird
    . A' B+ k0 j  A; E. W3 X( o1 L* H) vweird, eerie, uncanny mean mysteriously strange or fantastic.
    + I8 d# f" r2 [: m& ?% fWeird may imply an unearthly or supernatural strangeness or it may stress queerness or oddness:(尤强调的不同寻常的古怪)
    : O& l' w8 ^+ G- y4 {weird creatures from another world.' S: o9 k( c! `4 E' ]
    Eerie suggests an uneasy or fearful consciousness that mysterious and malign powers are at work:(暗示恐怖的心理感受,如某种(黑暗)力量操纵的,像幻想的克鲁苏,魔戒里的索伦)
    7 H- k1 s3 m3 [" Y) y: dan eerie calm preceded the bombing raid.
    7 ]3 o( e. x/ n! GUncanny implies an unpleasant or disquieting strangeness or mysteriousness:(意味某种不快的,不安的)
    ! A) {, M$ @/ ebore an uncanny resemblance to his dead wife.
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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    发表于 2018-3-19 10:43:40 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 elusty 于 2018-3-19 15:27 编辑 $ N% @4 @0 A: a1 e3 F
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    WBD解释的比较清楚:
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    的确,一部词典有时很难理解同义词的区别,即使权威词典也利用同义词相互解释。  I2 l. n+ L4 o$ y1 S

    , m% A* L. N9 f) o我总结了一下,个人理解,供你参考:
    5 Z+ }! O! b; Y* X+ S) j/ e1 RWeird:not this world, above or beyond nature; 非人世般古怪的# P8 P, }' s  C; V. i* ~# b
    Eerie: frightening; ghostly or vaguely and evilly mysterious: 恐怖,阴森森的,邪恶的古怪' w8 U  b% ]! S$ m& ^8 O8 V
    Uncanny: disturbing from unnatural things 打乱人平静心绪的怪异
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    $ N6 J1 z3 ^+ b2 a/ N) T( D因此:
    1 o" O; k( o! }5 [5 bWeird: of, relating to, or caused by witchcraft or the supernatural 超自然的# n5 T+ @, h7 |% Y! Z
    Eerie: so mysterious, strange, or unexpected as to send a chill up the spine 毛骨悚然的$ v" S. `/ `; H9 X% q
    Uncanny: disquieting 打破平静的,让人心烦意乱的
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    & j! O* `) Y  fWeird: 涉及超自然的 - 古怪的
    ' K9 b, s, S( z$ F9 d4 Z( [Eerie:吓人的 - 古怪的
    9 H" z! A4 b. ^, E3 e, MUncanny:令人烦乱,心绪不平静的 - 古怪的% z) |' ~/ L* @  _1 ~$ u

    0 V% P) y! ^5 i) a- oAHD的解释:
    9 g1 I$ ?. h$ f% ?% T; oWeird: 暗示超自然力影响的...
    ' O+ f& l# U2 O0 H' }4 [3 FEerie: 引起恐惧的...隐含邪恶的* w% t( U, g( L9 }4 e7 @7 F% H
    Uncanny:难以解释或难以接受的(其实,很多词典解释这个词时,都使用了appearing to be beyond ordinary or normal),即主要针对正常标准/范围说的(人的能力等)。
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    还是那句话,如果Elusty详细的阐释,还无法让你明白。建议你学好母语,多体会汉语同义词间的区别。  发表于 2018-3-20 11:02
    还是觉得没什么区别,你能看出区别?  发表于 2018-3-19 14:03
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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    发表于 2018-3-19 15:35:02 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 elusty 于 2018-3-19 16:02 编辑
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    最难理解的是uncanny,这个词是弗洛伊德创造的,喂鸡有解释,主要是心理学方面的,这也符合了上面所说的让人不舒服的这种含义:: U7 U% n2 ~5 u8 b# {
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny
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    4 n# @  f* X/ ?% P/ jThe uncanny is the psychological experience of something as strangely familiar, rather than simply mysterious.[1] It may describe incidents where an everyday object or event is encountered in an unsettling, eerie, or taboo context.[2][3] This experience is accompanied by a discomforting effect and often leads to an outright rejection of the object, as in the uncanny valley effect.) k" C, m+ M$ L+ I

    + o* e8 E2 \8 p7 _' L6 TThe concept of the uncanny was perhaps first fixed by Sigmund Freud in his 1919 essay Das Unheimliche.[4] For Freud, the uncanny's mixture of the familiar and the eerie confronts the subject with unconscious, repressed impulses.[3] Expanding on the idea, psychoanalytic theorist Jacques Lacan wrote that the uncanny places us "in the field where we do not know how to distinguish bad and good, pleasure from displeasure", resulting in an irreducible anxiety that gestures to the Real. The concept has since been taken up by a variety of subsequent thinkers and theorists such as Roboticist Masahiro Mori's "uncanny valley" hypothesis and Julia Kristeva's concept of abjection.
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    另外一个解释:7 ]- G( n  A2 s( w' N. s  Q( E
    When learning the meaning of uncanny, think of something "canned" as being very normal and ordinary. When you add the negative un- "not" to canned, uncanny means "something out of the ordinary, unusual, almost supernatural." You will often hear someone use the word uncanny to describe two people who look alike but are not related: "It's unnatural for two people to look so much alike, but not be related...it's uncanny."
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