应该有定冠词 the 么

enti · 发表于 2018-8-8 12:31:22

经济学人＜India shows how hard it is to move beyond fossil fuels>

It is not a one-off. For all Mr Modi’s ambitions for renewable energy, Patratu is part of a projected 48GW of coal-fired capacity under construction or planned between 2017 and 2022. Although it is a sharp slowdown compared with recent years, it goes far beyond replacing 22.7GW that is due to be retired and is not far short of the 69GW of renewable energy so far installed in India. For comparison it is almost as much as the total thermal-power capacity of South Africa, a coal-burning country.

为什么不是 “THE replacing 22.7GW" 呢？

csxy · 发表于 2018-8-8 15:40:20

我认为这个22.7Gw并不是特指要被替代的哪一部分，只是用来做个对比，所以也不需要用the。

enti · 发表于 2018-8-8 21:10:15

那同样也是对比的 “the 69GW of renewable energy” 就有 the 啊

enti · 发表于 2018-8-8 21:57:54

本帖最后由 enti 于 2018-8-8 22:17 编辑

articles in gerund

原来名词泛指的时候没有article？

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The rule you’re citing is that the gerund does not take the definite article when referring to an activity in general, but this rule also applies in other cases where the noun isn’t a gerund:+ p. C) T$ p3 ^" K4 m
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9 ?8 f2 u5 G, |0 o4 k5 ~$ tI suspect this rule is taught because it’s explitictly different from many Romance languages, where the definite article is used to refer to general activities.

csxy · 发表于 2018-8-8 22:39:41

enti 发表于 2018-8-8 21:10
9 A* M" P& {9 K1 a7 p. s' o3 s& z9 l那同样也是对比的 “the 69GW of renewable energy” 就有 the 啊

因为这个69GW就是这么多，不是一部分，是一个整体

enti · 发表于 2018-8-8 23:24:13

本帖最后由 enti 于 2018-8-9 02:41 编辑

我感觉很懵。

it goes far beyond replacing 22.7GW that is due to be retired and is not far short of the 69GW of renewable energy so far installed in India.

1。the 69GW 是特指，而22.7GW没有，如果有也应该是 replacing the 22.7GW
2。不是 the replacing 22.7GW, 是因为 replacing 是 gerund，这里也是泛指

这样？？？

然后，用 replacement 代替 replacing 的话，也是要用 the 的

.. it goes far beyond the replacement of 22.7GW ..

loveaffairs · 发表于 2018-8-11 09:46:16

It [the Patratu project] goes far beyond replacing 22.7GW that is due to be retired. ... 为什么不是 “THE replacing 22.7GW" 呢？

Replacing 22.7GW是个动宾结构的动名词，而不是以replacing作形容词、以22.7GW为主体的偏正结构，因此前面自然不用定冠词。同样，22.7GW也是第一次提到，读者并不知道是哪些具体的淘汰产能，因此它之前也不用定冠词。

动宾结构的动名词作比较的对象是很地道的写法。比如我们还可以说：

Being a good citizen means more than just doing what is required by law.

用 replacement 代替 replacing 的话，也是要用 the 的：it goes far beyond the replacement of 22.7GW。

这么说不地道。22.7GW都不知道是具体哪些产能，它们的replacement怎么就带the那么言之凿凿呢？

enti · 发表于 2018-8-11 12:01:52

本帖最后由 enti 于 2018-8-11 12:14 编辑

感谢大神解惑，我第一次了解到原来 -ing 形式还有动宾结构和偏正结构的区别

嗯，a replacement of 22.7GW

　

loveaffairs · 发表于 2018-8-15 06:59:02

enti 发表于 2018-8-11 12:01) {( E( Z0 M2 m+ W7 h9 T" g
感谢大神解惑，我第一次了解到原来 -ing 形式还有动宾结构和偏正结构的区别
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嗯，a replacement of 22.7GW ...

不要用名词，因为它跟it goes形成比较，相呼应的应该是it replaces 22.7GW，因此需要一个动作性强的动词，而不是名词。仅仅因为beyond是个介词的缘故，才把replace改成动名词。

就像我上个回帖里说的being a good citizen和doing what is required by law也是并行结构一样。

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