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[词典校勘] approach@新时代英汉大词典

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发表于 2019-10-16 14:53:53 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
我纯粹是意外看到的. q& _# K3 T3 g% Z, J0 d& T6 w
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ground 条目下:( V5 J( J0 N2 z" X. U

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5 ~) I# F4 ~6 s2 M" a9 ]这句的翻译里,mid-没了姑且不说,「演绎学说」是什么?
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/ M3 Z. i& x& I/ F+ T& v( }2 C按说语言学应该是各位编辑的长项呀,这个明明是「基于演绎的路子/路线」!4 {9 A* `# q0 h5 l: x
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文馨当代:: x" F8 ]; F9 C; [$ l* k8 U; L" W

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进路,通道,引道,入口;(研究学问的)门径,方法,步骤4 k$ q; u3 I! J1 s2 ^. a
•This book provides a good approach to psychology.本书提供研究心理学的良好门径。
; {4 p. L# k0 ^8 D$ `' r7 t3 Z  ~•the best approach to the learning of French学习法文的最佳途径
5 I+ C9 w! o5 K•the oral approach(外国语的)口说教学法

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了解语言学的人应该也知道,这个「基于演绎的路子/路线」说的是Chomskyan linguistics,人家是有正式名字的,deductive 只是描述其特征,哪有用局部特征直接称呼「学说」的!
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4 l1 C! ~. g+ k2 `8 c不出意外,新时代英汉大词典条下面,approach:- U: Q% c  f$ N2 Z. Y8 B
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- f, B4 c7 O. z7 Z; l7 t: P* s第五个义项,其实是跟文馨当代对应的,但是不如文馨当代说得明白,也许是受《英汉大词典》影响?
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第五个义项下面「英国读者看待美国文学,需要采取一种双重态度」,这句话选得也不好,什么叫「双重态度」?编辑说得清楚吗?是爱与恨的态度嘛?
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2 M1 b5 I5 R' p没有上下文,我们可以合理推测,这句话的意思也许是:从英国、美国两种视角看待,毕竟英国、美国文学用的是同一种语言,却有地域差异、文化差异……所以需要从自身的角度,再从他者的角度看……% g  X, q: Z# X) C- Z/ l" B! D) W

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1. approach 不是学说,翻译不当;) c2 I  V' e3 M% w$ d, F! Z
2. approach 本身选的例句不好9 ?+ t, Q% t" n' L. J

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    发表于 2019-10-16 15:20:49 | 显示全部楼层
    deductive approach  演绎法/演绎论?
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    . }5 c1 ~0 ~& A3 U# hdouble approach  双重视角?

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    演绎法是固有名词,不能用  发表于 2019-10-16 15:56

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    发表于 2019-10-17 10:21:46 | 显示全部楼层
    棒球之类的体育词汇翻译错误情有可原,语言学的词汇也错,就有点讽刺了。

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    发表于 2020-4-28 16:18:03 | 显示全部楼层
    从词源看,approach本意是接近事物的方法,后引申为解决问题的办法,那deductive approach无非是推论/演绎法或者学说

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     楼主| 发表于 2020-4-30 16:48:20 | 显示全部楼层
    MYsedulous 发表于 2020-4-28 16:18/ N' U/ c6 G7 |  h9 p1 R& N1 r
    从词源看,approach本意是接近事物的方法,后引申为解决问题的办法,那deductive approach无非是推论/演绎 ...
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    译者当然很可能就是照你这个思路翻的,问题是跟实情不符呀
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    本帖最后由 喬治兄 于 2020-4-30 17:26 编辑
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    klwo2 发表于 2020-4-30 16:48
    3 i" D0 W8 K, T& r# y8 d译者当然很可能就是照你这个思路翻的,问题是跟实情不符呀
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    approach
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    1. near, come near or nearer, draw near or nearer, come close or closer, draw close or closer; draw nigh to, move closer to, Inf. belly up to, edge closer to; come within range, gain on, overtake, catch up to; hail, accost, confront, address, greet, salute, speak to.
    + B6 y+ d3 \/ ?7 w2. approximate, nearly equal, come close to; resemble, be much like, be similar to, be comparable to.
    7 o# L+ m; `$ O3. present, offer, suggest, propose, recommend, advance, sound out; bring up, introduce, mention, broach; bring or put forward, propound, proffer, tender, hold out.2 S, N1 G! r) u1 T& ]0 l
    4. set about, begin, start, commence, make a start, take the first step, Inf. get the show on the road.2 V; V5 }) P+ `$ ?
    5. make advances to, make overtures to, proposition, solicit.0 x/ b# J; G, ^, m
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    ; h0 z  s4 g8 @) W; i" G6. nearness, close approximation, proximity, vicinity, neighborhood, propinquity.
    0 w; T' @* c# ]$ Y7. access, entrance, entry, entryway, entree, inlet, ingress; ramp, drive, driveway, lane, path, pathway, sidewalk; road, route, roadway, course, street, avenue, boulevard; highway, turnpike, pike, freeway, expressway, parkway, causeway, throughway; main road, highroad, thoroughfare, state highway, U.S. Inf. interstate, state highway, tollroad; speedway, autobahn, superhighway.
    * U8 Z7 o' y/ b- m$ ^% @  ^1 S8. door, doorway, hatch, gate, gateway, postern, portal; threshold, stile, turnstile, wicket; hall, hallway, passage, passageway, arcade, gangway, walkway, corridor, gallery; lobby, foyer, vestibule, anteroom, waiting room; anteporch, porch, portico.$ O8 \( ~5 H. _4 F7 ^
    9. method, procedure, steps, course, mode, way, manner, style.
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    10. advance, overture, prelude, motion, gesture; offer, invitation, proposal, proposition.8 {6 n9 V0 y( H8 w4 _, I5 p
    11. presentation, offer, proposal, idea, thought, suggestion, recommendation.
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