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[词典考据] as good as it gets@英汉词典

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发表于 2020-11-17 12:25:34 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 klwo2 于 2020-11-17 12:28 编辑
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如果有本英汉词典,连 good 都没解释好,读者是不是该直接甩进垃圾堆呢……家长听了会不会气冲冲地去新华书店退货呢……
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) d. P1 v( o# @( H( r这样的咄咄怪事,偏偏发生了……
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先看正确解释:
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Merriam-Webster:0 {& |6 X9 C$ ]% n7 S6 u# g4 y

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informal" _4 S% g* h0 E& L( U$ m, T+ `
1—used to say that nothing better is possible or available
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It's not a great restaurant, but in this part of the city, it's as good as it gets.
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2 L/ C& G2 x: k9 T6 ^/ B8 ~2—used to say that something is very good and cannot be improved
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There's nothing I enjoy more than spending time at home with my family. That's as good as it gets.

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第一个意思是「不完美,但是已经很好了,好得不能再好了,知足吧」,第二个意思是「特别好,没法叫它更好了」,这俩意思的落脚点都是「中间偏好」,就比如说100分满分吧,50分以上的70分、80分、90分、100分都能用「as good as it gets」,但是20分绝不能用。
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  ?+ v8 f! S% l4 s或者也可以换个角度理解,第一个意思,A说这餐馆太烂了,我打49分,B说你可知足吧,我觉得不是49分,是51分,你看看这地段,还挑什么,已经很好了,并不差。落脚点依然是「好」,不是「差」。* k1 K/ \: v! U' a8 F* L, P1 |
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麦克米伦高阶:
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be as good as it gets informal 6 Z* ~# M0 v5 i  c# E
1        to be not very good and unlikely to improve 就这样了(不太好,但改进的可能不大)) B% M5 s6 R3 A6 N
2        to be extremely good , so that nothing is likely to be better 太完美了
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3 ^& |; E3 g7 a这本正确。但是说实话,表述成「not very good」「不太好」,有的人会犯迷糊,什么「不太好」「有点好」「差不多」「还算好」,自己把自己绕进去了。不如Merriam-Webster的例句清楚明白。% A# a, {( a3 D7 P

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as good as it gets
, f% D+ G& k+ Q$ M! ~- O- WAs good as is possible; impossible to improve upon. This neighborhood is as good as it gets—why would we ever move?
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as ˌgood as it ˈgets used when you are saying that a situation is not going to get any better: The past year has been very special — as good as it gets as far as I’m concerned.

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# M) v4 v# I- ~这本正确。表述得没有Merriam-Webster明白。
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韦氏高阶:
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as good as it gets
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It's not a great restaurant, but in this part of the city, it's as good as it gets.
7 `2 B( G; C+ m% O  Q2 O这家饭店虽然不是特别好,但在城里这一片,没有比它更好的了。
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7 g/ L! D$ ~1 J: `— used to say that something is very good and cannot be improved再好不过了0 ?& h% c& ?3 o" ~/ N" ^4 R4 G
There's nothing I enjoy more than spending time at home with my family. That's as good as it gets.
9 G. O" |" }, _, g没有什么能比和家人一起待在家里更让我快乐的事了。这对我而言再好不过了。
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韦氏高阶和韦氏大学完全一样。& l9 z. h1 K. `' c
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if a situation is as good as it gets, it is not going to improve情况就这样了〔表示不会有好转〕:- o7 l# [5 l7 P+ q. R) p  ~0 P
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Enjoy yourself while you can. This is as good as it gets.你就能享受且享受吧﹐反正事情就这样了。
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英文是对的,虽然表述不好。双解版的中文很奇怪,improve的标准对译词不是「改善」「改进」吗,怎么变「好转」了?
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used when you are saying that a situation is not going to get any better (形势)不会有什么好转,还是老样子
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2 _2 d( O! Y$ O! o3 G8 |% A& f& G也跟着说「好转」,不知道谁教出来的。
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「好转」是现代词。近现代汉语辞源:
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恶化∷好转# F; |8 F- k/ @; h8 n  h
恶化èhuà(动)向坏的方面转化。▷形势~|战局~|环境~|病情持续~|山林气候~|事态继续~|造成水质~|事情完全不会~到你说的那种地步|形势的~已是不可阻挡。
* o; Z8 d  l# A0 p好转hǎozhuǎn(动)向好的方面转变。▷~的样子|国运渐趋~|社会风气~|身体~|事情会~|希望~|病情~一些|经济~了|情形~了一点儿|心情~过来。

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! [: x2 M! z# \9 q4 f* ^8 L7 S6 s「好转」的落脚点有问题,「不会好转」往往暗示「一直坏下去,保持坏的状态」。牛津、朗文的中文都没有抓住「好」的意思。这样的释义,当然无法套用到翻译里去:
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Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, is hailing new data on Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine candidate as "striking" and "quite impressive."9 O6 R7 t: v# g2 e$ g- z* V0 x( ~

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0 Q  M0 r' [& t( C/ m"These are obviously very exciting results," Fauci told CNN on Monday. "It's just as good as it gets — 94.5 percent is truly outstanding."

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0 N0 Q  ~% Y7 v* ~Fauci 说这个疫苗有效率94.5%,照牛津、朗文的译法,「不会有好转」「还是老样子」「情况就这样了」,根本不通。# m( E  X9 Z' y1 h  v6 h
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正确的理解是「好得不能再好了」,至于94.5%的有效率究竟是第一个意思(不完美知足吧),还是第二个意思(非常完美再好不过了),差别不大。. t2 _" y; Q1 I  }) ~
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另外,As Good as It Gets 还是一部电影的名字,译名《尽善尽美》,译名当然不一定跟原名意思完全一致,但至少抓住了「喜剧」这一点。一部爱情喜剧,名叫「不会有好转」「还是老样子」「情况就这样了」,可能吗?

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发表于 2020-11-25 22:03:10 | 显示全部楼层
1.没有改善的希望,至多如此;$ ]/ C3 W: F& l7 f5 D3 ~# E+ G
2.无可挑剔。
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    发表于 2020-11-17 19:56:57 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 oversky 于 2020-11-17 19:59 编辑
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    https://youtu.be/C31rj-bZ7dA?t=38
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    照牛津、朗文的译法,「不会有好转」「还是老样子」「情况就这样了」

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    这上下文用牛津、朗文的译法才通。$ ~! U5 b9 Y# ~4 i. L
    这要算辞典义项没收齐,不算错误。& @" k- O" E. k3 w! J+ X; s( L

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     楼主| 发表于 2020-11-17 20:26:14 | 显示全部楼层
    oversky 发表于 2020-11-17 19:56
    0 E4 T# V& E6 Y" Q, o( f1 B- yhttps://youtu.be/C31rj-bZ7dA?t=38
    $ ?. R5 {/ {2 N$ q+ k  v( m"This is as good as it gets. I'll just learn to live with it..."

    2 c; f2 u) d" d- O不是辞典义项没收齐,因为牛津、朗文的英文释义相当于韦氏的1、2两个。只是牛津朗文没有把情况说得很细罢了。
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    ( a, ~) _8 u. |0 K7 X- E  x牛津朗文双解的问题,是译者片面地把「is not going to get any better」「it is not going to improve」理解成了原本很糟,所以搞出「不会有好转」的译文9 b7 y( W7 s  K( @; E7 r0 _5 x4 T3 F
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    在你说的这个上下文里面,确实可以翻译成「不会有好转」,但是更准确的说法仍然是「现在这样已经很好了,我还是学着适应吧……」
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