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[词典考据] as good as it gets@英汉词典

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发表于 2020-11-17 12:25:34 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 klwo2 于 2020-11-17 12:28 编辑 / o6 U! ]  H! T2 ?
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如果有本英汉词典,连 good 都没解释好,读者是不是该直接甩进垃圾堆呢……家长听了会不会气冲冲地去新华书店退货呢……
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这样的咄咄怪事,偏偏发生了……
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. ~6 c9 K% i, F/ Z! f) n先看正确解释:
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Merriam-Webster:
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as good as it gets
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1—used to say that nothing better is possible or available
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It's not a great restaurant, but in this part of the city, it's as good as it gets.
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% x5 A5 N4 G9 B: j2—used to say that something is very good and cannot be improved$ ]3 M6 u/ j7 U
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There's nothing I enjoy more than spending time at home with my family. That's as good as it gets.

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第一个意思是「不完美,但是已经很好了,好得不能再好了,知足吧」,第二个意思是「特别好,没法叫它更好了」,这俩意思的落脚点都是「中间偏好」,就比如说100分满分吧,50分以上的70分、80分、90分、100分都能用「as good as it gets」,但是20分绝不能用。4 f7 x  O* o1 _( @) Z9 N
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或者也可以换个角度理解,第一个意思,A说这餐馆太烂了,我打49分,B说你可知足吧,我觉得不是49分,是51分,你看看这地段,还挑什么,已经很好了,并不差。落脚点依然是「好」,不是「差」。+ z4 b/ {3 Z1 {& Y, Q/ Q- g0 B' V
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麦克米伦高阶:9 x  O4 U, r3 l/ O4 d  @

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be as good as it gets informal
& x5 m" e7 ?& W$ e5 s; e6 R, p1        to be not very good and unlikely to improve 就这样了(不太好,但改进的可能不大)
$ X# f# T) }0 T: h! v2        to be extremely good , so that nothing is likely to be better 太完美了

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这本正确。但是说实话,表述成「not very good」「不太好」,有的人会犯迷糊,什么「不太好」「有点好」「差不多」「还算好」,自己把自己绕进去了。不如Merriam-Webster的例句清楚明白。0 y/ V; g7 e6 a1 o' f

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as good as it gets
+ J/ c0 M& h! [( s/ e$ ]# S8 xAs good as is possible; impossible to improve upon. This neighborhood is as good as it gets—why would we ever move?2 u' i) F: U& t6 h1 y. X

- b, F. B$ y0 |" d: o$ p$ Pas ˌgood as it ˈgets used when you are saying that a situation is not going to get any better: The past year has been very special — as good as it gets as far as I’m concerned.
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这本正确。表述得没有Merriam-Webster明白。
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韦氏高阶:
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as good as it gets
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informal
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6 B1 A  Y6 N9 n" d: v0 eIt's not a great restaurant, but in this part of the city, it's as good as it gets.
% @1 K. q" {' p2 g这家饭店虽然不是特别好,但在城里这一片,没有比它更好的了。+ H( @4 w; X( O) a1 D* k( B- @
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— used to say that something is very good and cannot be improved再好不过了- S+ @/ R8 g1 k
There's nothing I enjoy more than spending time at home with my family. That's as good as it gets.
: @7 D: u) ]$ l' P! H. c没有什么能比和家人一起待在家里更让我快乐的事了。这对我而言再好不过了。
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韦氏高阶和韦氏大学完全一样。' x2 T  Z2 F+ Z8 Z# e* G" p
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if a situation is as good as it gets, it is not going to improve情况就这样了〔表示不会有好转〕:
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6 t& g1 M1 Q3 R Enjoy yourself while you can. This is as good as it gets.你就能享受且享受吧﹐反正事情就这样了。
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: J, T/ U0 l! R英文是对的,虽然表述不好。双解版的中文很奇怪,improve的标准对译词不是「改善」「改进」吗,怎么变「好转」了?  m1 V3 a3 y! w1 f# D/ B

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as ˌgood as it ˈgets
4 _+ K0 f# P' G0 F- m+ F3 t+ cused when you are saying that a situation is not going to get any better (形势)不会有什么好转,还是老样子

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也跟着说「好转」,不知道谁教出来的。
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- i2 a3 c6 k. W8 G: I$ @! L; s「好转」是现代词。近现代汉语辞源:
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恶化∷好转2 V5 v- a) ?) S4 R0 K3 {9 u
恶化èhuà(动)向坏的方面转化。▷形势~|战局~|环境~|病情持续~|山林气候~|事态继续~|造成水质~|事情完全不会~到你说的那种地步|形势的~已是不可阻挡。5 L& X: w, o- w, @# T
好转hǎozhuǎn(动)向好的方面转变。▷~的样子|国运渐趋~|社会风气~|身体~|事情会~|希望~|病情~一些|经济~了|情形~了一点儿|心情~过来。
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「好转」的落脚点有问题,「不会好转」往往暗示「一直坏下去,保持坏的状态」。牛津、朗文的中文都没有抓住「好」的意思。这样的释义,当然无法套用到翻译里去:% `( F$ J1 V% u; Z9 {/ B7 j
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Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, is hailing new data on Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine candidate as "striking" and "quite impressive."
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"These are obviously very exciting results," Fauci told CNN on Monday. "It's just as good as it gets — 94.5 percent is truly outstanding."
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Fauci 说这个疫苗有效率94.5%,照牛津、朗文的译法,「不会有好转」「还是老样子」「情况就这样了」,根本不通。
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正确的理解是「好得不能再好了」,至于94.5%的有效率究竟是第一个意思(不完美知足吧),还是第二个意思(非常完美再好不过了),差别不大。1 `4 C" Q' ^! ]* d

  n4 T1 j, t' W5 x) R4 q3 B另外,As Good as It Gets 还是一部电影的名字,译名《尽善尽美》,译名当然不一定跟原名意思完全一致,但至少抓住了「喜剧」这一点。一部爱情喜剧,名叫「不会有好转」「还是老样子」「情况就这样了」,可能吗?

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发表于 2020-11-25 22:03:10 | 显示全部楼层
1.没有改善的希望,至多如此;7 }) u9 T! C: ^& [  ^
2.无可挑剔。
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    本帖最后由 oversky 于 2020-11-17 19:59 编辑
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    https://youtu.be/C31rj-bZ7dA?t=38
    ! X2 y$ k- R0 O+ A3 |  g4 ^"This is as good as it gets. I'll just learn to live with it..."
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    照牛津、朗文的译法,「不会有好转」「还是老样子」「情况就这样了」
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    + z$ T: o* v) a' o4 e这上下文用牛津、朗文的译法才通。
    5 Q& j4 N6 _$ K) U# y这要算辞典义项没收齐,不算错误。
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     楼主| 发表于 2020-11-17 20:26:14 | 显示全部楼层
    oversky 发表于 2020-11-17 19:56
    + R$ ?0 O5 E% O" e0 ~9 T8 Ihttps://youtu.be/C31rj-bZ7dA?t=38  ]) Z9 s/ J. n0 r( B" P
    "This is as good as it gets. I'll just learn to live with it..."

    0 H" @9 H0 _0 t" ?- ]. X. r; _不是辞典义项没收齐,因为牛津、朗文的英文释义相当于韦氏的1、2两个。只是牛津朗文没有把情况说得很细罢了。
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    , r9 d0 l6 c/ O  W+ o% y牛津朗文双解的问题,是译者片面地把「is not going to get any better」「it is not going to improve」理解成了原本很糟,所以搞出「不会有好转」的译文
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    在你说的这个上下文里面,确实可以翻译成「不会有好转」,但是更准确的说法仍然是「现在这样已经很好了,我还是学着适应吧……」
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