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[学习求助] 这首诗是什么意思?没看懂

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    [LV.6]常住居民II

    发表于 2022-7-11 17:20:26 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
    这首诗是FitzGerald翻译的鲁拜集,下面的中文翻译应该也是没问题的。
    2 ?9 u$ w; q  b( `* J, T! F) f但这首诗是什么意思?尤其是前两句,句子的结构也没看懂

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    发表于 2022-7-11 19:25:15 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 entropy 于 2022-7-11 19:28 编辑 . w6 N% g: J- @6 w
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    prest = pressed
    5 c; E' r9 {" ?prest: (archaic) simple past tense and past participle of press.- f' k; Y' R- W; }6 \
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    paraphrase:
    9 |* |3 `2 f+ m# w; S: o% g"Lo! Some that we loved as the best that time and fate could produce have already drunk their cup and now lie at rest."1 q; Z1 c& D! u# J

    % E0 b; k( O* j2 z& T解读:
    1 p- m! }3 l2 }/ d' e* TThe best of humanity is likened to a good wine Vintage; their lives are likened to drinking a cup of wine before they creep off to Rest (die).0 D  Z1 j! q/ Z! L) E' o
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    FitzGerald’s phrase “some we loved, the loveliest and the best” recalls the poignant events surrounding the composer Berlioz and the re-burial of his two wives., q8 b/ d" B7 u: z' P4 p
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    作者笔记(译稿):" ]  ?2 K* ^+ `* o& Y2 v, ?  C
    The two dead women lie there now in peace, awaiting the time when I shall bring my own share of corruption to the same charnel-house." t7 m7 w( p% {: i# v8 m

      k% |+ ]( G& R, ?' DI am in my sixty-first year; past hopes, past illusions, past high thoughts and lofty conceptions. My son is almost always far away from me. I am alone. My contempt for the folly and baseness of mankind, my hatred of its atrocious cruelty, have never been so intense. And I say hourly to Death: ‘When you will.’ Why does he delay?”9 [! }) @) ~$ V" t5 m$ {3 j6 K$ n

    8 o' `( \  g5 ?2 Y# B$ q3 d, Scarpe diem! 我们永远不知道明天和泥头车谁先到来。
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    & i& w4 ]3 F1 p7 x参考:9 D; m6 d' f' z
    https://www.bobforrestweb.co.uk/ ... _by_verse_notes.htm
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    发表于 2022-7-12 07:46:42 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 linguists 于 2022-7-12 08:06 编辑
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    我们所爱者,是“时间和命运”之佳酿,三杯两盅,一个个渐入梦乡。
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    [LV.6]常住居民II

     楼主| 发表于 2022-7-12 09:39:26 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 弹钢琴 于 2022-7-12 09:42 编辑
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    linguists 发表于 2022-7-12 07:46
    0 h7 [' \4 C' b, E4 T& Z我们所爱者,是“时间和命运”之佳酿,三杯两盅,一个个渐入梦乡。
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    9 {/ n6 W& S! `- F5 b( y6 M谁是喝“三杯两盅”的人啊; O; y; }8 n: R$ s4 j$ w  s" H$ j
    their Vintage中的their是谁啊?
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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    发表于 2022-7-12 11:08:56 | 显示全部楼层
    creep off to Rest (die).4 ~6 X1 ]  n  W( p' y4 ^" @
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    配图跟这个解释的意境完全相符啊

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    发表于 2022-7-12 12:59:45 | 显示全部楼层
    "time and fate of all their vintage" is prest,针对所有的最好时期的“time and fate”进行压制或酿制。
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    [LV.6]常住居民II

     楼主| 发表于 2022-7-13 09:49:34 | 显示全部楼层
    linguists 发表于 2022-7-12 12:59% \0 m+ U5 Z) d0 X3 N
    "time and fate of all their vintage" is prest,针对所有的最好时期的“time and fate”进行压制或酿制。 ...
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    似乎应该是 Time and Fate prest(=produced) the lovelist and the best from Their grapes. 3 u1 C9 f3 ]! K; e4 Z3 k
    Their指代的是Time and Fate
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    [LV.6]常住居民II

     楼主| 发表于 2022-7-13 09:54:27 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 弹钢琴 于 2022-7-13 10:02 编辑
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    entropy 发表于 2022-7-11 19:255 O3 U+ N/ a- B
    prest = pressed / I) ?! z: d2 O  e4 L3 X
    prest: (archaic) simple past tense and past participle of press.

    3 B% T) H# i8 G' v  h% ~1 v9 F& K+ E6 e9 z/ x+ |  j; q7 a
    some we loved 和 the loveliest and the best 应该不是同位语关系吧?
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      k7 x. A9 e, A0 l- ]( e我觉得应该是 Time and Fate prest(=produced) the lovelist and the best out of Their grapes.  q! B/ ]& j/ N
    Their指代的是拟人了的Time and Fate
    2 g( \7 u% n. `# v2 M5 P然后是那个some 喝的这些loveliest and best
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