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大熊部落 发表于 2014-9-4 16:47 
7 B9 s6 d! o+ P1 O. X中医确实是个吵架的好话题，所以我从来不在中医的论坛留言，在我看来绝大部分支持或反对中医的人都是错的 ...
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这些话题适合争吵不适合论证。/ U) O0 _; l3 S
譬如说“哲学已死”这个观点，这个“死”就比较模糊和含混，不好定义，不同的人那里有不同的定义，而且很难达成一致。
& y. l3 o: q* i" Q9 }) Y再比如“说‘哲学已死’的人根本不懂哲学”这个观点，这个“懂”也不好定义，怎么样算“懂”？这句话也不是我说的，是霍金说的，霍金也不懂或者对“哲学”的理解有偏差？他在 The Grand Design 的第一节里这么写的。* a& Y, X( M& \6 c1 `& J
WE EACH EXIST FOR BUT A SHORT TIME, and in that time explore but a small part of the
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vast world that is by turns kind and cruel, and gazing at the immense heavens above, people have - V7 _& t' K9 G8 K
always asked a multitude of questions: How can we understand the world in which we find
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from? Did the universe need a creator? Most of us do not spend most of our time worrying about 5 a+ a' }* o' Y5 N7 B
these questions, but almost all of us worry about them some of the time.2 u; ?! u6 N3 n _' Y
Traditionally these are questions for philosophy, but philosophy is dead. Philosophy has not kept
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answers that are suggested by recent discoveries and theoretical advances. They lead us to a new
: K/ B2 c" X; N- b% n' fpicture of the universe and our place in it that is very different from the traditional one, and " B# f- B/ _2 y, ~7 V2 u, E
different even from the picture we might have painted just a decade or two ago. Still, the first
. y. |' p. p6 ^0 M# r& o1 Y* Msketches of the new concept can be traced back almost a century.
( _. H; s& o+ }, w, GAccording to the traditional conception of the universe, objects move on well-defined paths and
" [4 C4 w i7 r8 l! u6 Thave definite histories. We can specify their precise position at each moment in time. Although 6 b8 K$ y! F( P c& ]4 T
that account is successful enough for everyday purposes, it was found in the 1920s that this 8 H/ F3 ^, X/ H( V3 t: M: E4 V* B
“classical” picture could not account for the seemingly bizarre behavior observed on the atomic
3 g! ]$ q9 w* O% C$ N6 ~% `& fand subatomic scales of existence. Instead it was necessary to adopt a different framework, called
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on those scales, while also reproducing the predictions of the old classical theories when applied to
$ m' e* c- Y; g; G* Sthe macroscopic world of daily life. But quantum and classical physics are based on very different
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& Z" I+ A7 X: z3 p- U {6 u# c5 W当然，我这儿又犯了诉诸权威或者名人的逻辑错误了。
" ?! a) K$ E+ }4 ?中医其实也很难定义。您要弄的“食疗”、“针灸”在我看来跟现代医学没啥关系，至少我理解不了。食物吃下去，都是被消化为小分子物质而后为人体吸收。针灸的话，穴位啥的其实压根儿不存在（但是，跟鬼神一样，人们似乎又证明不了它真的不存在，科学只能证明一个东西存在，不能证明一个东西不存在。），我觉得都是古人臆想出来的。“颈肩腰膝酸痛（软组织损伤）”在我看来，压根儿不是病，多锻炼锻炼就好了。$ J/ M. x/ ^6 u# ]# ]
现代医学的成就除了疫苗、抗生素之类的，另外就是发现绝大多数疾病都是可以自愈的。
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& b! O# C3 f' `+ {& r6 A这些东西，其实谁也不能说服谁，只不过是通过自说自话，互相了解下，最后各自按照自己原来的路子走。人会相信自己愿意相信的东西。
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最后，我本人是抱着娱乐的心态看待这个世界的。这还是受了Linus Torvalds的影响，他在自传Just for Fun 的 THE MEANING OF LIFE 相关章节里写到，人生的意义就是这三点：Survival. Your place in the social order. And entertainment.
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如果真有的话，期待大熊兄相关系统的研究成果面世。不过在医学科研中，“可重复性”是很重要的，如果古书上记载的现象、疗效，在现代无法重复的话，实践数据不能上升到理论高度，也不能指导实践，那有什么意义？
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这里表明下自己的态度，没有恶意，也没有说服别人的意向。6 G5 p0 w% g& J. ^3 s7 h8 Q5 [
一次相当于跑100米，短时间内5次相当于500米：这个怕是不能简单地叠加噢，就算持“一次相当于跑100米”的观点的人也不会这么算。: o4 ^# }; ~& v1 B$ Z7 M- h
中医能治而西医不能治的病，我想不出来；中医不能治而西医能治的病，比如已经被消灭的天花；西医治不了而好些中医号称能治，比如某些癌症、高血压等等，这也是中医遭抨击最多的地方，甚至被扣上骗子的帽子。
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