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大熊部落 发表于 2014-9-4 16:47 
; K! U4 K0 ]- t' Q' m7 d6 X+ {中医确实是个吵架的好话题，所以我从来不在中医的论坛留言，在我看来绝大部分支持或反对中医的人都是错的 ...
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这些话题适合争吵不适合论证。9 t* X6 P Z9 B- J/ v
譬如说“哲学已死”这个观点，这个“死”就比较模糊和含混，不好定义，不同的人那里有不同的定义，而且很难达成一致。
( e- x% N+ U/ l再比如“说‘哲学已死’的人根本不懂哲学”这个观点，这个“懂”也不好定义，怎么样算“懂”？这句话也不是我说的，是霍金说的，霍金也不懂或者对“哲学”的理解有偏差？他在 The Grand Design 的第一节里这么写的。3 `) ?3 z @7 X1 G
WE EACH EXIST FOR BUT A SHORT TIME, and in that time explore but a small part of the
7 T& v8 o: r3 z7 `+ W1 Awhole universe. But humans are a curious species. We wonder, we seek answers. Living in this # p& ]! P6 m+ c" W
vast world that is by turns kind and cruel, and gazing at the immense heavens above, people have 6 M$ v3 s, c) u% w3 ~3 {3 b
always asked a multitude of questions: How can we understand the world in which we find
, G- o- v6 z& Z" ]! z& q4 e+ m9 Sourselves? How does the universe behave? What is the nature of reality? Where did all this come
9 J4 y. l! y3 k/ o G7 J8 ~from? Did the universe need a creator? Most of us do not spend most of our time worrying about
4 z4 }: t& q$ `5 |5 X: y* Ethese questions, but almost all of us worry about them some of the time.
& I3 ]. t8 o* \& Z( C# rTraditionally these are questions for philosophy, but philosophy is dead. Philosophy has not kept
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% K0 X9 h! t: C; ~$ Zof the torch of discovery in our quest for knowledge. The purpose of this book is to give the
4 W7 l% T/ X8 {, V' J+ Oanswers that are suggested by recent discoveries and theoretical advances. They lead us to a new 1 m5 f3 k; Q, }) @
picture of the universe and our place in it that is very different from the traditional one, and 9 u h( q* K4 P7 a4 H# \
different even from the picture we might have painted just a decade or two ago. Still, the first
9 ?$ e, Z7 J @& y. xsketches of the new concept can be traced back almost a century.
$ T+ u" K0 L" LAccording to the traditional conception of the universe, objects move on well-defined paths and ( e6 \2 h, G$ |% s
have definite histories. We can specify their precise position at each moment in time. Although
, R# f# Z7 n( h8 H' \- z6 H- ethat account is successful enough for everyday purposes, it was found in the 1920s that this
c; N0 X9 Q1 {/ J“classical” picture could not account for the seemingly bizarre behavior observed on the atomic
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quantum physics. Quantum theories have turned out to be remarkably accurate at predicting events " _5 l( \. l) S T5 U5 ~* [
on those scales, while also reproducing the predictions of the old classical theories when applied to
! A) b! r0 F# a9 S6 N: q# Xthe macroscopic world of daily life. But quantum and classical physics are based on very different
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当然，我这儿又犯了诉诸权威或者名人的逻辑错误了。0 b* Q4 }" ~- ~8 }7 @
中医其实也很难定义。您要弄的“食疗”、“针灸”在我看来跟现代医学没啥关系，至少我理解不了。食物吃下去，都是被消化为小分子物质而后为人体吸收。针灸的话，穴位啥的其实压根儿不存在（但是，跟鬼神一样，人们似乎又证明不了它真的不存在，科学只能证明一个东西存在，不能证明一个东西不存在。），我觉得都是古人臆想出来的。“颈肩腰膝酸痛（软组织损伤）”在我看来，压根儿不是病，多锻炼锻炼就好了。
+ o5 z; h1 G0 B: c现代医学的成就除了疫苗、抗生素之类的，另外就是发现绝大多数疾病都是可以自愈的。
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1 U( Y. W* B, u$ b( U这些东西，其实谁也不能说服谁，只不过是通过自说自话，互相了解下，最后各自按照自己原来的路子走。人会相信自己愿意相信的东西。
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最后，我本人是抱着娱乐的心态看待这个世界的。这还是受了Linus Torvalds的影响，他在自传Just for Fun 的 THE MEANING OF LIFE 相关章节里写到，人生的意义就是这三点：Survival. Your place in the social order. And entertainment.
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上面的一些话语，和 survival、social order 无关，跟 entertainment 有关。
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如果真有的话，期待大熊兄相关系统的研究成果面世。不过在医学科研中，“可重复性”是很重要的，如果古书上记载的现象、疗效，在现代无法重复的话，实践数据不能上升到理论高度，也不能指导实践，那有什么意义？
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这里表明下自己的态度，没有恶意，也没有说服别人的意向。% L9 o" |+ f6 p) K
一次相当于跑100米，短时间内5次相当于500米：这个怕是不能简单地叠加噢，就算持“一次相当于跑100米”的观点的人也不会这么算。
中医能治而西医不能治的病，我想不出来；中医不能治而西医能治的病，比如已经被消灭的天花；西医治不了而好些中医号称能治，比如某些癌症、高血压等等，这也是中医遭抨击最多的地方，甚至被扣上骗子的帽子。, q' H6 S/ @0 x6 y; ?7 _
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